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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 17 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1358

Today's Topics:
                            950s vs 950sdx
               Alpha Bravo: German alphabet with Morse
                          CENSORSHIP WARNING
                           CW abbreviations
     Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 14 November
                  Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
                   Gary bashing ---> crossed wires
                          HAM ftp mod sites?
             How did spark transmitters work (was Re: CW)
            Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands? (2 msgs)
              Reciprocal License Question (U.S./Canada)
                       TEN TEC OMNI V OWNERS!!!

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:30:30 GMT
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!utnut!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.@@mvb.saic.com
Subject: 950s vs 950sdx
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, sjhawk2@srv.PacBell.COM (Stephen Hawkins) says:

>Can anyone tell me what the differance is between these two radios?
>I saw a two page sheet from Kenwood about a year and a half ago
>and I cannot find it anywhere.
>de WV6U Steve
>
Two major differences ... final amplifier transistors
                          menu system, instead of ramming the functions
                          ie hold <key/keys> and power up
The rest I'm not sure about

-- 
Bill VE3NJW      Advanced Amateur
Packet Address : VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN   
Freenet Address: aj467@Freenet.Carleton.ca

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 20:29:28 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!bck1@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Alpha Bravo: German alphabet with Morse
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu



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Date: 17 Nov 93 15:45:47 GMT
From: brunix!maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu!md@uunet.uu.net
Subject: CENSORSHIP WARNING
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:

> That's right; welcome to USENET.  You spend other people's money transmitting
> your articles, you need to play nice.  That's awfully discriminatory against
> sociopaths, I know, but hey life just ain't fair.

Actually, when you receive USENET news, you're joining a cooperative
effort. I don't agree with the traffic in misc.activism.progressive, or
maybe alt.multiculturalism, but I pass it along to other sites just the
same.

If what you are receiving over the USENET offends you, disconnect your
machine.


MD
-- 
-- Michael P. Deignan
-- Population Studies & Training Center 
-- Brown University, Box 1916, Providence, RI  02912 
-- (401) 863-7284

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Date: 17 Nov 93 15:21:07 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: CW abbreviations
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1993Nov16.201718.1832@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>,
Joseph P. Wetstein <jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> wrote:
>Could someone please send me the abbreviations for CW? (The two letter codes 
>that are used for standard CW communication. )
>
>Is this available from ARRL server?

Check out "Now You are Talking!" page 9-12 for a large list.  Else
check out the ARRL operator's manual.  The top dozen of ones that I use 
or encounter most often (in rough order of frequency)

 de  from
 tu  thank you, often abbreviated again to just an `x'
 gl/gm/ga/ge/gn  good luck, good ----
 dx  DX
 tnx tx tks thanks
 gl good luck
 op operator's name
 buro  bureau
 es  and
 wx  weather
 ur your
 fb fine business, meaning, variously: good, nice, great etc.
 
Of course there are many others.  I often come across new ones which
are often clear from the context.  

Rajiv
aa9ch
r-dewan@nwu.edu

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 22:12:44 MST
From: library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 14 November
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                14 NOVEMBER, 1993

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 14 NOVEMBER, 1993
------------------------------------------------------------

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 318, 11/14/93
10.7 FLUX=094    90-AVG=093        SSN=039      BKI=1223 3322  BAI=009
BGND-XRAY=B1.4     FLU1=1.4E+06  FLU10=1.5E+04  PKI=1223 3423  PAI=011
  BOU-DEV=008,010,016,023,020,027,010,016   DEV-AVG=016 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C2.5   @ 0100UT    XRAY-MIN= A9.1   @ 1743UT   XRAY-AVG= B2.9
NEUTN-MAX= +003%  @ 2300UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 1500UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.2%
  PCA-MAX= +0.0DB @ 2350UT     PCA-MIN= -0.5DB @ 1405UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55362NT @ 2333UT   BOUTF-MIN=55335NT @ 1851UT  BOUTF-AVG=55352NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+067,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+130NT@ 1848UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-062NT@ 0942UT  G6-AVG=+086,+016,-032
 FLUXFCST=STD:095,095,095;SESC:095,095,095 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,010/010,010,010
    KFCST=1234 5321 1245 4322  27DAY-AP=007,006   27DAY-KP=2322 2311 2223 2121
 WARNINGS=*SWF
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 13 NOV 93 was  38.5.
      The Full Kp Indices for 13 NOV 93 are: 2o 1+ 3- 2-   3o 2+ 2+ 1- 


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was low.  Region 7618 (N09E49) continues
       to be the dominant spotted region on the disk. It has produced
       occasional C-class flares during the period. Newly assigned
       Region 7619 (N10W19) emerged.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       low to moderate.

            The geomagnetic field has been at quiet to unsettled
       levels for the past 24 hours, with one period of active at
       high latitudes.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be unsettled.

            Event probabilities 15 nov-17 nov

                             Class M    50/50/50
                             Class X    05/05/05
                             Proton     05/05/05
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 15 nov-17 nov

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                10/15/10
                        Minor Storm           05/05/05
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                15/15/15
                        Minor Storm           10/05/10
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/05

            HF propagation conditions continued normal over all
       regions.  No SWFs were observed in the last 24 hours, although
       there remains a moderate probability for isolated SWFs on
       daylit paths due to minor solar flare activity.  Conditions
       should continue normal over all regions throughout the next 72
       hours, through 17 November inclusive.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 14/2400Z NOVEMBER
-----------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7618  N09E49  337  0420 EKO  11  017 BETA
7619  N11W19  045  0010 AXX  02  002 ALPHA
7616  N11W20  046                    PLAGE
7617  S15W56  082                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 15 NOVEMBER TO 17 NOVEMBER
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 14 NOVEMBER, 1993
-------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP SWF
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 14 NOVEMBER, 1993
-----------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
14/A0911             B2205       N21E41   DSF
14/2303      2313     2343       N08E50   LDE    B7.4   40


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 14/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
13 Nov: 0011  0017  0024  C2.0                          85        70        54
        0057  0104  0113  C1.5                                         
        0155  0200  0205  C1.2                                         
        0234  0242  0246  C3.2                                         
        0752  0756  0759  C8.3                                         
        0910  0910  0914        SF  7618  N08E73                       
        0929  0933  0940  C3.1  SF  7618  N07E73                       
        1000  1007  1012  C2.3                                         
        1025  1032  1035  C1.7                                         
        1205  1217  1223  B9.9                                         
        1406  1414  1418  B5.8                                         
        1438  1442  1447  B4.4                                         
        1520  1559  1614  C5.8  SF  7618  N10E68                       
        1735  1740  1744  C1.1  SF  7618  N10E66                       


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
  Region 7618:  3   1   0     4   1   0   0   0    005  (31.2)
Uncorrellated: 7   1   0     0   0   0   0   0    011  (68.8)

 Total Events: 016 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
13 Nov: 0011  0017  0024  C2.0                     III
        0057  0104  0113  C1.5                     III

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 17 Nov 93 14:02:54 GMT
From: vtserf.cc.vt.edu!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

There was a recent article in QST (October, I think) in the
"New Ham Companion" about new hams having problems making
contacts on repeaters.  It had some suggestions on breaking
the ice.  The author of that article seems to think that
many times "monitoring" calls are ignored because people in
general don't deal with meeting strangers very well.  I think
it's like guys in a freshman dorm at college.  They're away
from home for the first time and really need support, so they
make a lot of friends.  Dealing with strangers is difficult,
but being alone is even more difficult, so they make friends.
Once folks build a base of friends, they tend to put less
energy into making new friends.  They rely on their old base
of friends.  I know this is a big generalization, but I 
bet this is one of the reasons for repeater cliques.

I try to be sensitive to this on the local repeater.  If I
hear a new call, I usually try to make contact, congratulate the guy
or girl on their new license, and make them feel like they can
give me a call if they want to chat sometime.

In terms of HF friendliness, 17m, 12m, the novice CW bands, and
30m CW are the ones I like best.  However, I'd never call CQ on 
14.313 :-).

Benjy Cline, AC4XO
Virginia Tech Computing Center
benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu

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Date: 17 Nov 93 13:20:24 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Gary bashing ---> crossed wires
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, MOWE%SLUMUS.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Michael Owen) writes:

>Several individuals have pointed out to me that I have
>my Garys confused.  Guess I shoulda kept my mouth shut.
>-sigh-

Yeah, but some of us well-known newsgroup types joined you in your
confusion. :-). I had just assumed that I missed the original 
post, and when I saw Gary Coffman . . .

Sure glad I said nice things about Mr. Coffman while I had my
foot in my mouth. :-).

73 from ARRL HQ, Ed

-----
Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT  06111            If you tie a strip of colored cloth to
(203) 666-1541 - voice          part of your body, the tribe acts
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      differently! 
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing            
-----

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Date: 17 Nov 93 11:58:44 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM ftp mod sites?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Is there a site that has an archive of all the mods?  Although buffalo
has the individual mods, I would like to update my older set of files.

73,
Steve, NO8M

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 20:33:58 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!aj467@ames.arpa
Subject: How did spark transmitters work (was Re: CW)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister) says:

>At the Lawrence Hall of Science in Berkeley they have the electromagnet Dr.
>Lawrence used to construct the first cyclotron sitting out front; it's about
>9 feet tall, and was part of a commercial spark transmitter made surplus by
>the advent of tube transmitters.  (BTW, Lawrence was a ham, and they have
>his spark rig on display inside.)
>
>My question is, why did spark transmitters need big electromagnets?
>Were they basically big generators, generating EMF by rotating a coil
>through the magnetic field?

The electrical power in the system I saw modeled, used a generator shaft
driven by a steam engine to produce the DC required to power the AC
Alternator a triple phase system, custom built for the "high frequency"
generation required to limit the decay time inherent in existing spark gap
technology.

73 Bill

-- 
Bill VE3NJW      Advanced Amateur
Packet Address : VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN   
Freenet Address: aj467@Freenet.Carleton.ca

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 09:27:54 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>purely mechanical talents such as Morse.
>

I tried to ignore this (really!) but I can't let this statement pass by
unchallenged. If decoding  Morse is purely mechanical then so is under-
standing a spoken language. When I listen to Morse I hear entire words
in the same way as when I listen to someone speak. Certainly one doesn't
develope this ability without many, many months (or years) of practice.

Many people, when they begin to learn a foreign language, might consider
that they are undergoing a mechanical process; my first week in the
Vietnamese language class I would hear: mo^.t hai ba bo^'n and have to
mechanically translate mentally to English: one two three four. But
after just a few weeks that mechanical process melted away to not
having to do the translation into English. I heard and understood
the Vietnamese.

Gary, you have undoubtedly not passed to that point where you are
able to understand Morse as a language. Thus, all your posts show
a dislike for it but you try to hide this dislike behind a facade
that code is outdated and irrelevant. But the rest of us who are
fluent know better!

See you on .policy.

Jeff NH6IL 

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 20:46:18 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!aj467@ames.arpa
Subject: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze) says:

>I've got a little question.  I was tuning across the 80-meter novice subband
>tonight, and right at 3700kHz I noticed a QSO taking place at 20+ WPM.  It

> Now, for my question.  (And, BTW, I'm not trying to condemn anybody's
>practice, call anybody a lid, or anything else--I'm genuinely curious.)  What
>is the correct etiquette for running high-speed code in the Novice subbands?
>It wasn't anything big tonight, since even that area was uncrowded, but I'm
>just curious...the novice subbands are supposedly "training bands" (anything

There are believe it or notmany US Hams that are only too Happy to operate CW.
Some of these Hams are Novices, as there is no longer a time limit on the
life span of the "learner's permit" some of these Hams have never found
the need to upgrade, and have better than 5 wpm Morse Code speed. They
must by Law operate in their allocated frequencies, also any of their old
buddies who have upgraded, must communicate with them in that portion.
Unlike the freeways, 5 wpm is not the maximum speed allowed, further the
higher band priveleged General, Advanced, and Extra's are not limited to
their "extra" band allocations. Be happy there appear to be some
high-speed boys there. It will help you with your code speed. Further you
may befriend an "Elmer" to help you attain the proficiency to upgrade to a
higher class. If and when that happens, become an "Elmer" to someone else,
and give him the same opportunities, and assistance to learn.
 
That's the way I see it.
By the way, I know a novice who can copy about 55 wpm.
 
73 et bcnu de VE3NJW Bill in Ottawa ...-.-

-- 
Bill VE3NJW      Advanced Amateur
Packet Address : VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN   
Freenet Address: aj467@Freenet.Carleton.ca

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Date: 16 Nov 1993 12:24 PST
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!erich.triumf.ca!bennett@ames.arpa
Subject: Reciprocal License Question (U.S./Canada)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1993Nov16.181031.22977@fx.com>, brian@fxgrp.fx.com (Brian Terry) writes...
>Greetings,
> 
>I understand that the U.S. and Canada have "instant" reciprocal license
>privileges.  My copy of the FCC 97 rule book mentions that Canadians
>visiting the U.S. must add a "/VE" to their call sign.  What, if
>anything, to U.S. hams need to add to their call when visiting
>Canada?
> 
>Thanks!
> Brian
>--


I think (or hope!) you are slightly confused.  You seem to say I should sign
"VE7CEI/VE" if I go to the US.  I think the correct way would be "VE7CEI/W7"
(or whatever call area I am in).

Certainly I would expect visiting Americans to sign "W7XZY/VE7" in BC.
The DOC regs require visitors to add the Canadian call area (eg. VE7) to their
home call, either as a suffix or prefix, I believe.

Peter Bennett VE7CEI                | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight
Internet: bennett@erich.triumf.ca   | of one another only when one can be
Bitnet:   bennett@triumfer          | observed visually from the other
TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada     |                          ColRegs 3(k)

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:30:31 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: TEN TEC OMNI V OWNERS!!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 My club has had an Omni V for a few years, and we love the radio.
It has been on a few field days, and does a good job always.
We havent had to avail ourselves yet, of TenTec's service dept.
But we may soon. Our Omni transmits and receives 200 Hz high.
That's the only problem we ever had, and we get good reports.
-- 
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
*     Pat Masterson   D12-25  | KE2LJ@KC2FD                 *
*     Grumman Data Systems    | 516-346-6316.               *
*     Bethpage, NY 11746      | bat@gdstech.grumman.com     *

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
++++++++++

a  - Arno                      Italian river
b  - Borvaselin                Medicament (prob. fictitious)
c  - Coburg-Gotha              Town
d  - Doria                     Italian surname
e  - Ernst                     Name (male)
f  - Friedrichsroda            Town
g  - Gomorrha                  Biblical town
h  - Herrenzimmer              Study, smoking-room
i  - Ida                       Name (female)
j  - Jawohl Odol               Slogan advertising Odol, a gargle
k  - Kolberg Ost               Town (prob. fictitious)
l  - Leonidas                  King of Sparta
m  - Motor                     Motor
n  - Nora                      Name (female)
o  - Oekonom                   Farmer, economist
oe - Oekonomie                 Economics
p  - Per Motorrad              By motorcycle
q  - Quohnsdorf bei Forst      Town (prob. fictitious)
r  - Revolver                  Revolver
s  - Sabine                    Name (female)
t  - Tod                       Death
u  - Uniform                   Uniform
ue - Ueberkonto                Super bank account (contrived)
v  - Verbrennungstod           Death by fire
w  - Weltnordpol               The worlds north pole
x  - Xolabaphon                Musical instrument, if anything (contrived)
y  - York Yellowstone          Town (prob. fictitious)
z  - Zoroaster                 Iranian religious reformer (Zarathustra)

For some reason, ae (a Umlaut) is not included, though oe and ue are.

++++++++++

Brian Kelk
Cambridge
U.K.
bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk

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Date: 17 Nov 93 14:43:30 GMT
From: world!slm@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1993Nov16.043632.12907@icaen.uiowa.edu>, <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CGMqAI.2J0@news.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?

Regarding the question of etiquette in the Novice CW bands ... 
it seems that we haven't determined that the ham who heard the
high-speed CW QSO actually got the call signs of the hams who
were in QSO.

It's also possible that those hams weren't even U.S. hams!
Many, many non-U.S. hams do not know that our rules set aside
certain frequencies only on a band for various license categories. 
As far as I know, there aren't any other countries which do this --
they restrict you by MODE on a band (i.e. CW only), but not by
frequencies -- either you have privileges on a bnad or you don't. 
I've run into this problem quite a bit when hearing some of my
overseas ham friends in the Extra part of the band where I can't work ...
I've also heard Europeans calling "CQ Stateside" in the Extra part of
the band, which cuts out the potential response of approximately
85% of all licensed amateurs.

73, Sharon KC1YR
 
-- 
electronic address: slm@world.std.com 

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