Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 14:13:00 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1351 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 15 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1351 Today's Topics: Better reference materials (was: Elmers are dead, etc. etc.) DSP units Gary-bashing ORBS$316.MICRO.AMSAT ORBS$316.MISC.AMSAT ORBS$316.WEATH.AMSAT SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 (3 msgs) SAREX Keps and Update 10/28 Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Nov 93 20:04:09 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Better reference materials (was: Elmers are dead, etc. etc.) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >"tooling up" for my general class license, I remember studying "Understanding >Amateur Radio" from the ARRL. A real fine text that helped me understand >just what what going on inside the box. I'm not sure anything like that is >available any more. All the new entrants can do is rely on the Elmers to help >'em out. and along with that should be "A Course in Radio Fundamentals". I have a bad photocopy here made to reduce wear on a worn copy - copyright 1972. Even looking at the book today, it appears that it would serve nicely. However, we got a light weight "Understanding Basic Electronics" today (not that it isn't needed but there's a place for the serious technical book on general electronics). was only $2 in 1972. probably could use some updating for new stuff. I'd probably buy a copy if it isn't filled with lots of fluffy sidebars and cutesy cartoons and art (a distraction in UBE in my opinion). i would also think a return to book sized books instead of the 8x11 floppy books might help some...the big books are a bit too floppy. bill wb9ivr ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 14:46:11 GMT From: worldbank.org!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: DSP units To: info-hams@ucsd.edu We have a NIR-10 at work's club station, and I'm not overly impressed! I personally wouldn't pay the $300+ for this unit. The NIR-10 is okay for CW and badnpass applications, but the "white noise" reduction leaves a lot to be desired. -- Darrell ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 16:50:59 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Gary-bashing To: info-hams@ucsd.edu > >> The manual doesn't give me any help, and I don't seem to be able to >> find anything which tells me just how to tweak everything and get on >> the air!! > >>Any help? > >>Doug N0YVW > >Now, if that doesn't say something about the current licensing >situation, nothing will. > >Gary I don't want to bore everyone by taking my turn at Gary-bashing, but I can't resist. I am brand new to amateur radio. So new, in fact, that I just passed elements 1A, 2, and 3A on Nov 6 (did I say that right, Gary? Forgive me if I'm not as smart as you.) So there have been many times I've wanted to say exactly what Doug said: What do I do now? or Any help? BTW, I'm 30 yrs old and have a BS and an MS in mechanical engineering, so I don't feel like I'm an idiot. But amateur radio is a very diverse hobby and can be as technically challenging as your interests and capabilites will allow. I've easily got a hundred questions to ask someone. And each answer is food for thought and spawns 2 more questions. For the inexperienced amateur, there is no such thing as a stupid question, yet Gary (or people like him) can certainly give a different impression. I wanted to become a ham more than twenty years ago, but I didn't know a single person to turn to for help. At the time, I had no idea there were Elmers out there to help (or even what one was, for that matter). But I can assure you of one thing, if the first ham I ran into was a Gary, I wouldn't be waiting for ticket now. Hope to work you soon... 10-12 weeks, they tell me :-( Tommy ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 18:36:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$316.MICRO.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-316.D Orbital Elements 316.MICROS HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 12, 1993 BID: $ORBS-316.D TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: UO-14 Catalog number: 20437 Epoch time: 93314.26240544 Element set: 911 Inclination: 98.6068 deg RA of node: 36.8706 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011455 Arg of perigee: 111.4215 deg Mean anomaly: 248.8190 deg Mean motion: 14.29802927 rev/day Decay rate: 1.28e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19830 Checksum: 295 Satellite: AO-16 Catalog number: 20439 Epoch time: 93314.25650448 Element set: 711 Inclination: 98.6135 deg RA of node: 37.8762 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011873 Arg of perigee: 112.5374 deg Mean anomaly: 247.7066 deg Mean motion: 14.29859897 rev/day Decay rate: 9.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19831 Checksum: 335 Satellite: DO-17 Catalog number: 20440 Epoch time: 93314.72182474 Element set: 711 Inclination: 98.6156 deg RA of node: 38.5937 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011919 Arg of perigee: 110.1078 deg Mean anomaly: 250.1390 deg Mean motion: 14.29997154 rev/day Decay rate: 1.08e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19839 Checksum: 311 Satellite: WO-18 Catalog number: 20441 Epoch time: 93314.27363549 Element set: 712 Inclination: 98.6152 deg RA of node: 38.1661 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012426 Arg of perigee: 111.7995 deg Mean anomaly: 248.4510 deg Mean motion: 14.29974899 rev/day Decay rate: 9.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19833 Checksum: 325 Satellite: LO-19 Catalog number: 20442 Epoch time: 93314.26623889 Element set: 711 Inclination: 98.6160 deg RA of node: 38.3657 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012902 Arg of perigee: 111.6029 deg Mean anomaly: 248.6529 deg Mean motion: 14.30067157 rev/day Decay rate: 1.07e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19834 Checksum: 304 Satellite: UO-22 Catalog number: 21575 Epoch time: 93313.78644466 Element set: 411 Inclination: 98.4598 deg RA of node: 27.4629 deg Eccentricity: 0.0006935 Arg of perigee: 224.2634 deg Mean anomaly: 135.7989 deg Mean motion: 14.36863544 rev/day Decay rate: 1.17e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12157 Checksum: 334 Satellite: KO-23 Catalog number: 22077 Epoch time: 93314.21490842 Element set: 308 Inclination: 66.0804 deg RA of node: 18.4482 deg Eccentricity: 0.0004639 Arg of perigee: 338.0608 deg Mean anomaly: 22.0210 deg Mean motion: 12.86281812 rev/day Decay rate: .00000000 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 5862 Checksum: 255 Satellite: AO-27 Catalog number: 22825 Epoch time: 93305.38322237 Element set: 208 Inclination: 98.6783 deg RA of node: 18.2116 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008754 Arg of perigee: 149.2634 deg Mean anomaly: 210.9045 deg Mean motion: 14.27587035 rev/day Decay rate: 5.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 517 Checksum: 300 Satellite: IO-26 Catalog number: 22826 Epoch time: 93305.66096033 Element set: 209 Inclination: 98.6791 deg RA of node: 18.4934 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009019 Arg of perigee: 149.5441 deg Mean anomaly: 210.6266 deg Mean motion: 14.27689613 rev/day Decay rate: 7.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 522 Checksum: 311 Satellite: KO-25 Catalog number: 22830 Epoch time: 93314.69145093 Element set: 211 Inclination: 98.5800 deg RA of node: 27.0255 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012337 Arg of perigee: 94.9544 deg Mean anomaly: 265.3046 deg Mean motion: 14.28015541 rev/day Decay rate: 1.11e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 651 Checksum: 267 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 18:41:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$316.MISC.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-316.M Orbital Elements 316.MISC HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 12, 1993 BID: $ORBS-316.M TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: MIR Catalog number: 16609 Epoch time: 93314.97077396 Element set: 572 Inclination: 51.6183 deg RA of node: 202.0455 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005693 Arg of perigee: 23.2148 deg Mean anomaly: 336.9078 deg Mean motion: 15.59529397 rev/day Decay rate: 4.226e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 3054 Checksum: 314 Satellite: HUBBLE Catalog number: 20580 Epoch time: 93307.41913862 Element set: 359 Inclination: 28.4692 deg RA of node: 246.8298 deg Eccentricity: 0.0004679 Arg of perigee: 70.9135 deg Mean anomaly: 289.1966 deg Mean motion: 14.92902547 rev/day Decay rate: 9.06e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19233 Checksum: 335 Satellite: GRO Catalog number: 21225 Epoch time: 93314.39830284 Element set: 220 Inclination: 28.4634 deg RA of node: 313.5049 deg Eccentricity: 0.0075239 Arg of perigee: 9.9355 deg Mean anomaly: 350.2723 deg Mean motion: 15.58504747 rev/day Decay rate: 1.6953e-04 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 2313 Checksum: 290 Satellite: UARS Catalog number: 21701 Epoch time: 93309.31219655 Element set: 411 Inclination: 56.9841 deg RA of node: 336.0504 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005602 Arg of perigee: 88.9850 deg Mean anomaly: 271.1633 deg Mean motion: 14.96217444 rev/day Decay rate: -2.650e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 11741 Checksum: 279 Satellite: POSAT Catalog number: 22829 Epoch time: 93289.11726978 Element set: 204 Inclination: 98.6763 deg RA of node: 2.0610 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010043 Arg of perigee: 184.4594 deg Mean anomaly: 175.6498 deg Mean motion: 14.27975951 rev/day Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 286 Checksum: 317 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 18:39:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$316.WEATH.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-316.W Orbital Elements 316.WEATHER HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 12, 1993 BID: $ORBS-316.W TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: NOAA-9 Catalog number: 15427 Epoch time: 93300.72651427 Element set: 608 Inclination: 99.0865 deg RA of node: 343.0970 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014906 Arg of perigee: 151.8994 deg Mean anomaly: 208.2999 deg Mean motion: 14.13555759 rev/day Decay rate: 9.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 45749 Checksum: 353 Satellite: NOAA-10 Catalog number: 16969 Epoch time: 93308.02577200 Element set: 508 Inclination: 98.5151 deg RA of node: 318.8770 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012448 Arg of perigee: 270.5362 deg Mean anomaly: 89.4395 deg Mean motion: 14.24841200 rev/day Decay rate: 1.07e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 37053 Checksum: 298 Satellite: MET-2/17 Catalog number: 18820 Epoch time: 93313.86326152 Element set: 210 Inclination: 82.5401 deg RA of node: 83.0499 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017920 Arg of perigee: 77.7053 deg Mean anomaly: 282.6113 deg Mean motion: 13.84696783 rev/day Decay rate: 6.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 29200 Checksum: 293 Satellite: MET-3/2 Catalog number: 19336 Epoch time: 93313.98312645 Element set: 210 Inclination: 82.5385 deg RA of node: 118.8020 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017396 Arg of perigee: 88.4059 deg Mean anomaly: 271.9055 deg Mean motion: 13.16962219 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 25440 Checksum: 300 Satellite: NOAA-11 Catalog number: 19531 Epoch time: 93307.95823027 Element set: 408 Inclination: 99.1482 deg RA of node: 286.6377 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012789 Arg of perigee: 46.5585 deg Mean anomaly: 313.6658 deg Mean motion: 14.12928630 rev/day Decay rate: 1.39e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 26340 Checksum: 329 Satellite: MET-2/18 Catalog number: 19851 Epoch time: 93314.44174536 Element set: 211 Inclination: 82.5186 deg RA of node: 318.3186 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015511 Arg of perigee: 116.9458 deg Mean anomaly: 243.3286 deg Mean motion: 13.84348503 rev/day Decay rate: 4.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23742 Checksum: 302 Satellite: MET-3/3 Catalog number: 20305 Epoch time: 93313.78275180 Element set: 912 Inclination: 82.5475 deg RA of node: 62.1477 deg Eccentricity: 0.0016698 Arg of perigee: 110.3082 deg Mean anomaly: 249.9836 deg Mean motion: 13.16023732 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19425 Checksum: 296 Satellite: MET-2/19 Catalog number: 20670 Epoch time: 93314.71352062 Element set: 711 Inclination: 82.5501 deg RA of node: 22.0091 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017060 Arg of perigee: 42.7604 deg Mean anomaly: 317.4880 deg Mean motion: 13.84180249 rev/day Decay rate: 1.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 17039 Checksum: 262 Satellite: FY-1/2 Catalog number: 20788 Epoch time: 93314.27490495 Element set: 816 Inclination: 98.8528 deg RA of node: 336.2622 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014224 Arg of perigee: 264.8255 deg Mean anomaly: 95.1288 deg Mean motion: 14.01329924 rev/day Decay rate: 3.52e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16304 Checksum: 314 Satellite: MET-2/20 Catalog number: 20826 Epoch time: 93314.40511387 Element set: 710 Inclination: 82.5262 deg RA of node: 320.0564 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012856 Arg of perigee: 307.6374 deg Mean anomaly: 52.3617 deg Mean motion: 13.83563412 rev/day Decay rate: 4.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15750 Checksum: 269 Satellite: MET-3/4 Catalog number: 21232 Epoch time: 93311.55017164 Element set: 613 Inclination: 82.5434 deg RA of node: 326.2919 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013431 Arg of perigee: 27.8915 deg Mean anomaly: 332.2926 deg Mean motion: 13.16456437 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12219 Checksum: 275 Satellite: NOAA-12 Catalog number: 21263 Epoch time: 93308.09045315 Element set: 815 Inclination: 98.6458 deg RA of node: 335.5750 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012543 Arg of perigee: 165.4607 deg Mean anomaly: 194.6943 deg Mean motion: 14.22328054 rev/day Decay rate: 1.89e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12852 Checksum: 306 Satellite: MET-3/5 Catalog number: 21655 Epoch time: 93313.85451209 Element set: 611 Inclination: 82.5506 deg RA of node: 271.6301 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014550 Arg of perigee: 26.1377 deg Mean anomaly: 334.0477 deg Mean motion: 13.16825241 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 10759 Checksum: 276 Satellite: MET-2/21 Catalog number: 22782 Epoch time: 93314.66191362 Element set: 210 Inclination: 82.5507 deg RA of node: 19.6100 deg Eccentricity: 0.0023265 Arg of perigee: 115.4347 deg Mean anomaly: 244.9226 deg Mean motion: 13.82991020 rev/day Decay rate: 9.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 988 Checksum: 282 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 19:38:48 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >To the packet gateways: if possible, please put a trap... How about disallowing automated packet to internet mailing list gateways? On the bright side, those October 28th elements are now some of the best distributed elements... ------- ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 15:03:26 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu R:931115/1642Z @:VK1KCM.ACT.AUS.OC [Canberra, ACT] $:9311021750.A R:931113/1340Z @:VK3BBS.VIC.AUS.OC [St Albans] #:110189 Z:3021 FBB5.15 R:931113/0832Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:64606 Z:77478 R:931112/1005Z @:K5DI.NM.USA.NA [Las Cruces] #:7152 369mn 57s9311021750.A R:931111/1432Z @:KC7CG.AZ.USA.NA #:22868 R:931111/1421Z @:W7JHX.AZ.USA.NA [Tucson] #:549 Z:85710 FBB5.15 R:931109/0328Z @:N0IFE.#NCMO.MO.USA.NA [Moberly, Mo] #:53798 Z:65270 FBB5.15 R:931105/0807Z @:KJ4LQ.#TIDE.VA.USA Chesapeake #:50267 Z:23320 R:931104/0205Z @:NL7NC.#NAK.AK.USA.NA [Anchorage,AK] #:77412 Z:99504 FBB5.15 R:931102/2041z @:WA8URE.#SWMI.MI.USA.NA Grand Rapids #:36668 Z:49508 SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.025 SAREX Keps & Update: 10/28 Thursday 10/28/93 @ 08:00 UTC The last school group contact was completed yesterday. The Portsmouth HS in Portsmouth, New Hampshire had a telebridge contact using stations in California (Ralph Warner, N6MNN) and Texas (Bob Douglas, W5GEL). The students asked 5 questions during this bridge contact. Hams across the U.S. and around the world continue to work the Shuttle Columbia on both voice and packet. Moreover, the completion of school group contacts has cleared several school backup passes for possible general QSO opportunities. While the SAREX Working Group cannot fully guarantee availability, there is a high probability that the STS-58 crew will be ready to take general call. on these passes. Two of these "scheduled" passes remain. These include orbit 178 at MET 11 days 1 hour 42 minutes (10/29 at 16:35 UTC) and orbit 192 at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC). Please note that the astronauts operated voice during yesterday's "scheduled" pass which occurred on 10/27 at 14:59 UTC (Orbit 145). Also note that hams on the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia crew on several other orbits yesterday. Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, is the official SAREX set for today. Please note that there is only a six second difference between element set GSFC-025 (released two days ago) and element set GSFC- 031. STS-58 1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318 2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383 Satellite: STS-58 Catalog number: 22869 Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTCset: GSFC-031 Inclination: 39.0252 deg RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58 Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day SAxis: 6651.1630 Km Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031. The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it into agreement with the NASA numbering convention. Submitted by F, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 16:39:51 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu R:931115/1900Z @:VK1KCM.ACT.AUS.OC [Canberra, ACT] $:29256_W7OEK R:931115/1139Z @:VK3BBS.VIC.AUS.OC [St Albans] #:28632 Z:3021 FBB5.15 R:931115/0819Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:65142 Z:77478 R:931114/0624Z @:K5DI.NM.USA.NA [Las Cruces] #:7500 318mn 43s29256_W7OEK R:931114/0635Z @:KC7CG.AZ.USA.NA #:23309 R:931113/1948Z @:W7JHX.AZ.USA.NA [Tucson] #:667 Z:85710 FBB5.15 R:931111/0639Z @:N0IFE.#NCMO.MO.USA.NA [Moberly, Mo] #:54193 Z:65270 FBB5.15 R:931107/2151Z @:KJ4LQ.#TIDE.VA.USA Chesapeake #:51383 Z:23320 R:931107/0732Z @:N7IJI.#CLT1.NC.USA.NA Z:28209 #:76154 $:29256_W7OEK R:931105/1624z 60177@KT0H.#NECO.CO.USA [DATA HUB CO] R931105/1608Z @:W0RA.#SECO.CO.USA.NA [YODER] FBB5.14d #:83466 Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29256 ; Thu, 04 Nov 93 03:46:32 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 03:44:57 UTC Message-Id: <29255_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29255 ; Thu, 04 Nov 93 02:45:47 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 02:44:45 UTC Message-Id: <29254_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29254 ; Thu, 04 Nov 93 01:45:29 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 01:44:47 UTC Message-Id: <29253_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29253 ; Thu, 04 Nov 93 00:46:29 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 00:45:06 UTC Message-Id: <2949_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29249 ; 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Wed, 03 Nov 93 18:45:47 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 18:45:40 UTC Message-Id: <29148_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29148 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 18:03:46 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 18:03:22 UT Message-Id: <29147_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29147 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 17:12:03 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 17:11:44 UTC Message-Id: <29136_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29136 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 15:44:49 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 15:44:44 UTC Message-Id: <29134_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29134 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 14:45:08 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 14:44:47 UTC Message-Id: <29132_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29132 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 13:44:32 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 13:44:45 UTC Message-Id: <29131_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29131 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 12:44:39 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 12:44:44 UTC Message-Id: <29126_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29126 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 11:44:24 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 11:44:43 UTC Message-Id: <29125_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29125 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 10:44:31 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 10:44:47 UTC Message-Id: <2917_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29117 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 09:43:27 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 09:43:46 UTC Message-Id: <29091_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29091 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 08:56:04 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 08:55:59 UTC Message-Id: <29080_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29080 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 07:45:09 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 07:45:11 UTC Message-Id: <29079_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29079 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 07:03:53 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 07:03:31 UTC Message-Id: <29066_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29066 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 05:43:31 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 05:44:04 UTC Message-Id: <29062_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29062 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 02:45:25 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 02:46:01 UTC Message-Id: <29050_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29050 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 02:01:26 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 02:01:50 UTC Message-Id: <29047_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29047 ; Wed, 03 Nov 93 01:09:32 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Nov 93 01:09:40 UTC Message-Id: <29041_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 29041 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 21:42:27 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 21:42:59 UTC Message-Id: <28985_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28985 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 20:47:06 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 20:47:48 UTC Message-Id: <28973_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28973 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 19:58:01 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 19:58:49 UTC Message-Id: <28968_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28968 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 18:43:20 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 18:44:09 UTC Message-Id: <28942_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28942 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 17:43:53 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 17:44:47 UTC Message-Id: <28937_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28937 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 15:43:49 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 15:44:50 UTC Message-Id: <28936_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28936 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 14:43:54 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 14:44:51 UTC Message-Id: <28935_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28935 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 13:43:53 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 13:44:50 UTC Message-Id: <28933_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28933 ; Tue, 02 Nov 93 12:42:37 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 12:43:53 UTC Message-Id: <28932_w7oek@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb%w7oek@wd4eck.ampr.org To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B Received: from WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG by W7OEK.AMPR.ORG with SMTP originator <ABFHB%W7OEK@WD4ECK.AMPR.ORG> id 28932 ; Tue, 02 Nov 9312:09:45 GMT X-Forwarded-To: W7OEK Date: 28 Oct 93 19:00:00 UTC Message-Id: <931028050312@w7oek.bbs> From: abfhb@wa8ure.#swmi.mi.usa.na To: ans@amsat.org Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28 X-BBS-Msg-Type: B SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.025 SAREX Keps & Update: 10/28 Thursday 10/28/93 @ 08:00 UTC The last school group contact was completed yesterday. The Portsmouth HS in Portsmouth, New Hampshire had a telebridge contact using stations in California (Ralph Warner, N6MNN) and Texas (Bob Douglas, W5GEL). The students asked 5 questions during this bridge contact. Hams across the U.S. and around the world continue to work the Shuttle Columbia on both voice and packet. Moreover, the completion of school group contacts has cleared several school backup passes for possible general QSO opportunities. While the SAREX Working Group cannot fully guarantee availability, there is a high probability that the STS-58 crew will be ready to take general calls over the continental U.S. on these passes. Two of these "scheduled" passes remain. These include orbit 178 at MET 11 days 1 hour 42 minutes (10/29 at 16:35 UTC) and orbit 192 at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC). Please note that the astronauts operated voice during yesterday's "scheduled" pass which occurred on 10/27 at 14:59 UTC (Orbit 145). Also note that hams on the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia crew on several other orbits yesterday. Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, is the official SAREX set for today. Please note that there is only a six second difference between element set GSFC-025 (released two days ago) and element set GSFC- 031. STS-58 1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318 2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383 Satellite: STS-58 Catalog number: 22869 Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTC) Element set: GSFC-031 Inclination: 39.0252 deg RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58 Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6651.1630 Km Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031. The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it into agreement with the NASA numbering convention. Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 93 20:19:01 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: SAREX Keps and Update 10/28 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu i think i support expiration dates on packet messages now...wonder what the record is for this sort of thing? bill wb9ivr ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1351 ****************************** ******************************