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Info-Hams Digest            Sun, 14 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1344

Today's Topics:
                           10 meter beacons
                     Abbreviating Dates (2 msgs)
                    FCC question pools on the net?
                            FM on 7105 khz
How to find the answers to frequently-asked questions about Ham Radio
                            remote switch
                      What do I do now/ (2 msgs)

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 06:35:53 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: 10 meter beacons
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Gang, 
   In a previous discussion someone mentioned the monitoring of beacons
to check band openings, so here is a rather complete list of 10 meter
beacons. I received this from ham-server@grafex.sbay.org.
   What I find very interesting to note is the very low power that
most of these beacons use; a good portion are in the QRP range
(5 watts or less). As is said, when the band is open, one can use
flea-power and still be heard.

Jeff NH6IL

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Subject: File K:/hamradio/10meters/10mbeaco.lst, in plaintext, Part 1
 

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The following 10 meter beacon list has been compiled and maintained by
Joe Gumino (K2OLG).  If you have any corrections, additions or
deletions please direct them to me (WA2ZYU @ KB1BD-4) and I will
forward them to Joe.  Thank you for your interest and response to this
list in the past.  Joe and I shall work to keep it current.......agn
tnx & 73.
 
           10 METER BEACON'S de K2OLG          2/19/90       Part 1
 
              Edited and distributed under OKIPN by N8GTC

 FREQ.    CALL      OPERATION  LOCATION                   NOTES
 
 28.175   VE3TEN        C      OTTAWA, CANADA             10W, GP
 28.191   VE6YF                EDMONTON, ALBERTA          10W
 28.195   IY4M        ROBOT    BOLOGNA, ITALY             20W, 5/8 GP
 28.200   GB3SX         C      CROWBOROUGH, ENGLAND       8W, DIPOLE
 28.201   LU8ED                ARGENTINA                  5W
 28.202   KE5GY                ARLINGTON, TX              5W, VERTICAL
 28.2025  ZS5VHF               NATAL, RSA                 5W, GP
 28.204   DL0IGI        C      W. GERMANY                 100W, VERT. DIPOLE
 28.205   KA3OEM               MEADVILLE, PA.             27W, YAGI/WEST
 28.206   KJ4X                 PICKENS, SC                2W, VERTICAL
 28.2075  W8FKL         C      VENICE, FLA                10W, VERT.
 28.208   WA1IOB        C      MARLBORO, MASS             75W, VERT.
 28.209   NX2O          C      STATEN ISLAND, NY          10W, GP
 28.210   3B8MS         C      MAURITIUS                  GP
 28.210   K4KMZ         I      ELIZABETHTOWN, KY.         20W, VERT.
 28.210   KC4DPC        C      WILMINGTON,NC              4W, DIPOLE
 28.212   EA6RCM               PALMA DE MALLORCA          4W, 5 EL NNE
 28.2125  ZD9GI         C      GOUGH IS.                  GP
 28.215   GB3RAL        C      SLOUGH, BERKSHIRE          20W, GP
 28.2175  W8UR                 MACKINAW ISLAND,MI         .5W, GP
 28.2175  WB9VMY        C      CALUMET, OK.               2W, DIPOLE
 28.2195  LU4XS                CAPE HORN
 28.220   5B4CY         C      CYPRUS                     26W, GP
 28.221   PY2GOB               SAN PAULO, BRAZIL          15W, VERT.
 28.222   W9UXO         C      NR CHICAGO, ILL.           10W, GP
 28.2225  HG2BHA        C      TAPOLCA, HUNGARY           10W, GP
*28.225   PY2AMI        C      SAO PAULO, BRAZIL          5W, DIPOLE
 28.2275  EA6AU         C      MALLORCA, BALEARIC IS.     10W, 5/8 GP
 28.230   ZL2MHF        C      MT. CLIMIE, NZ.            50W, VERT. DIPOLE
 28.232   W7JPI/AZ      C      SONOITA, ARIZ.             5W, 3 EL YAGI NE
 28.233   KD4EC         C      JUPITER, FLA.              7W, GP
 28.235   VP9BA         C      HAMILTON, BERMUDA          10W, GP
 28.2375  LA5TEN        C      OSLO, NORWAY               10W, 5/8 GP
 28.2405  5Z4ERR        C      KIAMBU, KENYA
 28.245   A92C                 BAHRAIN                    NW/SE DIPOLE
 28.2455  ZS1CTB        C      CAPETOWN, RSA              20W, 1/4 VERT.
 28.247   EA3JA                BARCELONA, SPAIN
 28.2475  EA2HB         I      SPAIN                      6W, GP
 28.248   K1BZ          C      BELAST, MAINE              5W, VERT. DIPOLE
 28.250   W3SV          C      ELVERSON, PA               10W, VERT.
 28.250   K0HTF         C      DES MOINES, IA             2W, GP
 28.250   Z21ANB        C      BULAWAYO, ZIMBABWE         15W, GP
 28.2505  4N3ZHK        C      MT. KUM, YUGOSLAVIA        1W, VERT.
 28.252   WJ7X          C      SEATTLE, WA                5W, RINGO
 28.252   WB4JHS        I      FLORISSANT, MO.            7W, VERT.
 28.2525  OH2TEN               FINLAND                    
 28.255   LU1UG                GRAL PICO, ARGENTINA       5W, GP
 28.2575  DK0TEN        C      ARBEITSGEN, W. GERMANY     40W, GP
 28.259   WB9FVR        C      PEMBROKE PINES, FLA.       1W, DIPOLE
 28.260   VK5WI         C      ADELAIDE, SA, AUSTRALIA    10W, GP
 28.262   VK2RSY        C      SYDNEY, NSW, AUSTRALIA     25W, GP
 28.264   VK6RWA        C      PERTH, WA, AUSTRALIA
 28.266   VK6RTW        C      ALBANY, WA, AUSTRALIA
 28.266   KB4UPI        C      BIRMINGTON, ALA            20W, 1/4 VERT.
 28.2685  W9KFO         I      EATON, ILL                 750MW, VERT.
 28.270   ZS6PW         C      PRETORIA, RSA              10W, 3 EL YAGI
 28.270   VK4RTL        C      TOWNSVILLE, QLD, AUSTRALIA 
 28.2725  9L1FTN        I      FREETOWN, SIERRA LEONE     10W, VERT. DIPOLE
*28.2745  ZS1LA                STILLBAY, RSA              20W, 3 EL YAGI NW
 28.275   AL7GQ         C      DENVER, CO                 1W, LOOP
 28.2755  N6RDX         I      STOCKTON, CA               20W, 3 EL YAGI
 28.2775  DF0AAB        C      KIEL, W. GERMANY           10W, GP
 28.280   LU8EB                ARGENTINA                  5W
 28.282   VE1MUF        C      FREDRICKTON, NB, CANADA    500MW, DIPOLE
 28.282   VE2HOT        C      BEACONSFIELD, QUE          5W, VERT DIPOLE
 28.2825  OK0EG         C      HRADEC KRALOVE             10W, DIPOLE
 28.284   VP8ADE        C      ADELAIDE IS, NR ANTARCTICA 8W, V BEAM TO G LAND
*28.286   KE2DI                NR ROCHESTER, NY           2W, VERT. DIPOLE
 28.286   KK4M          C      LAS VEGAS, NEV.            5W, VERT.
 28.287   W8OMV                NR ASHVILLE, NC.           5W, GP
 28.287   H44SI         C      SOLOMON IS.                15W
 28.288   W2NZH         I      MOORESTOWN, NJ             3W, GP
 28.290   SK5TEN               SWEDEN
 28.290   VS6TEN        C      HONG KONG                  10W, VERT.
 28.292   ZD8HF                ASCENSION ISLAND
 28.2925  LU2FFV               SAN JORGE, ARGENTINA       5W, GP
 28.295   WC8E          I      CINCINNATI, OHIO           10W, RINGO
 28.296   W3VD          C      LAUREL, MARYLAND           1.5W, VERT. DIPOLE
 28.297   WA4DJS        I      FT. LAUDERDALE, FLA        30W, GP
 28.301   KF4MS         C      ST. PETERSBURG, FLA        5W
 28.3025  PT7AAC               FORTALEZA, BRAZIL          5W, GP
 28.306   PT8AA                RIO BRANCO, BRAZIL         5W, GP
 28.315   ZS6DN         C      IRENE, RSA                 100W, VERT.
 28.888   W6IRT                HOLLYWOOD, CA              5W, GP CODE PRACTICE
 28.992   DF0ANN               MOTITZBERG, W. GERMANY     20MW, 1 EL DELTA LOG
 
* REVISION
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-- This is the last part ---------------
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End of session.

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Oh, hopefully the NH6IL/B 10 meter beacon will be operational in January;
as of now Hawaii is not represented on 10. I'm shooting for 28.203 - I'll
make an announcement when it's on the air. 5 watts into a 5/8 wave vertical.

Jeff NH6IL

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Date: 14 Nov 93 13:58:04 GMT
From: noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!gilbaronw0mn@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Abbreviating Dates
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>In article <9311122339.AA02883@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov> rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV
(Robert Carpenter) writes:
>>
>>
>>Abbreviated     Countries where used
>>------------    ---------------------
>> 12/15/1993     USA
>> 15/12/1993     Belgium, Spain, Italy, United Kingdom, Brazil,

IMHO the only one that make sense is one that is not ambiguous. That uses the
3 character month field. Example 20JUN1993. No possible ambiguity here. Any
of the others can be. For computers the one that takes the least storage
would be the best. You are going to tell the computer how to read it so no
ambiguity there either since it carries with the program the definition. 

                   Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN
                   "Bailar es Vivir"
                   PGP2.X key at key servers or upon request

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 13:45:00 +0000
From: doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!demon!llondel.demon.co.uk!dave@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Abbreviating Dates
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <9311122339.AA02883@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov> rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV (Robert Carpenter) writes:
>
>
>Abbreviated     Countries where used
>------------    ---------------------
> 12/15/1993     USA
> 15/12/1993     Belgium, Spain, Italy, United Kingdom, Brazil, International
>                English, Latin America
> 15.12.1993     Finland, France, Germany, Norway, Switzerland
> 15-12-1993     Denmark, Netherlands, Portugal
> 1993-12-15     Canada(French), Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Sweden,
>                Poland
>Note: Doesn't Japan use something like the last format (above)?
>It also seems to me that following is true...
> 19931215       American National Standards Institute (since it collates 
>                directly without any special treatment).
>
I would say the standard USA format is the worst - at least all the others
manage to go either most significant to least significant or vice versa. When
you add the time to it, the ones with the year first make the most sense in
computer terms.

Wasn't there a court case in the USA once where a European had died and left a
will which was apparently dated *after* he died? Evidence had to be produced in
court to prove that over this side of the pond we use DD/MM/YY instead of 
MM/DD/YY. Perhaps legal documents should not be signed before the 13th of the
month in order to make such things a bit clearer :-)

Dave
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Date: 10 Nov 93 09:52:46 -0800
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic.csu.net!vax.sonoma.edu!butler@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FCC question pools on the net?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Are the question pools for FCC license exams available on the net?
If so, where?
Thanks for any help,
-Bob

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 04:30:42 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bee2.radnet.com!cyphyn!randy@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FM on 7105 khz
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Has anyone heard that FM signal on 7105kc  0800-1300UTC ?

Just curious...didn't know 'they' used FM to do broadcasting on SW.


-- 
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 02:44:03 GMT
From: pacbell.com!amdahl!thunder!ikluft@ames.arpa
Subject: How to find the answers to frequently-asked questions about Ham Radio
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Posted-By: auto-faq 3.1.1.1
Archive-name: ham-faq-ptr

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:42:31 GMT
From: amd!amdcl2!brian@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: remote switch
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Steve Bass writes:

>    As part of a project of mine, I would like to construct a remote
> control switch that operates on principles used by garage door
> openers and car alarm systems.
> 
>    Steve Bass
>    sbass@fc.hp.com

I just finished playing around with one of these and wanted to post
what I'd learned to the net but wasn't sure whether anyone would be
interested.  Obviously, someone is, so here's the garage door info
file:

I recently reverse-engineered the transmitter half of a simple garage
door opener.  My intent was to increase it's range beyond the current
30 foot maximum.  I didn't figure out how to crank the power, but I
did learn a lot about how they work.  I haven't studied the receiver
box yet.

Clock:
  The circuit derives a simple 50% duty cycle clock from an RC based
oscillator.  Most of this logic is contained in the single IC.  There
are two external resistors and one external capacitor used to set the
clock frequency.  (Note that this clock is a digital clock and has
nothing to do with producing the actual RF.)
  This clock has a period of approximately 1.15 milliseconds.

Coding:
  The code for this unit is a 9 digit base 3 number.  It is set via a
9 place dip switch with 3 positions per switch.  The 3 positions are
labeled minus zero and plus.  The switch labeled 1 is sent first.
Here are the waveforms associated with each "digit":

             _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   
   clock:   / \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_
             _               _
   -:       / \_____________/ \_____________  (ie. short short)
             _____________   _
   0:       /             \_/ \_____________  (ie. long short)
             _____________   _____________  
   +:       /             \_/             \_  (ie. long long)

  The IC reads the switch positions and produces a digital signal
which is a sequence of nine of the above waveforms (one for each
switch) strung end to end followed by a long period of zero output.
The key is sent repeatedly while the button is held down.

Keying:
  There are only two connections between the IC and the RF oscillator.
One of them carries the above "key" waveform and is apparently used to
power the oscillator!  I don't really understand the function of the
second connection.

Oscillator:
  The RF oscillator is composed of a single n-channel JFET transistor
(type 2n5486) and several passive components.  It appears that the
oscillator tank circuit and the antenna have been combined into a
single unit made of a loop on the circuit board with an adjustable
capacitor across it.  By adjusting the capacitor, I could change the
oscillation frequency from 275MHz (max cap) to 335MHz (min cap).  Note
that most common remote units operate at 390MHz, so this obviously
isn't one of them!

  At the risk of producing a monster, here is an ASCII drawing of the
RF oscillator circuit:


                                                     +9V
                           pin15                      |
                             |                        R7=150K
                             D1             0.62V     |
                       6.7V  |           +-----+------+----pin14
                             L1          |     |      |
         4.8V                |           L3    R9=1K  D2
   +--------------+          R8=1K       |     |      |
   |               +         |           |     s      +--switch--GND
   |                +--------+-----C5----+----g JFET
   |                |                          d
   |               10pF                        |
   |  LOOP          |                          |       both diodes are
   | 16x12mm      +-+--+                       |        cathode "down"
   |              |    |                       |       L1=L3=2.2uH
   |             var  4.7pF                    |
   |              |    |                       |
   +--------------+----+-----------------------+

  The voltages shown are during oscillation.  I had some real
difficulty measuring the frequency of this circuit because there isn't
any point on the circuit that is a pure RF with no AC component due to
the switching waveform.  I finally just coupled to probe into the loop
with a small loop on the oscilloscope probe.  Pin 15 is the switching
waveform.  When it's high, the circuit oscillates.  I don't know the
function of pin 14.  The switch is the button that activates the whole
circuit.

Anyone with ideas for how to increase the power of this unit?

The receiver is in a weather sealed box and I haven't gotten brave
enough to open it yet.

   Brian McMinn  N5PSS   brian.mcminn@amd.com

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 00:35:16 GMT
From: news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@uunet.uu.net
Subject: What do I do now/
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Well, I'm almost ready to got on the air HF-wise for my first time.  I've
got my random-wire tuner, a tranceiver, a random wire, cables to connect it
all...all I lack at the minute is a counterpoise (well, multiple counterpoises
for the 2-3 bands I want to get on to) and an SWR meter, which I should be
getting in a few days.
 Question:  Now what?  I don't have a clue about what the controls
on the front of my trusty old HW-101 do (what's a Final?  What's a Drier
erps...Driver Preselector?).  How do I regulate my power output?  In short,
what in the world do I do?
 The manual doesn't give me any help, and I don't seem to be able to
find anything which tells me just how to tweak everything and get on the air!!!

Any help?

Peace es 73,

Doug N0YVW
-- 
__  /|  | Douglas J Renze, N0YVW  |
\'o.O'  | +1 319 337 4664         |             IN GOD WE TRUST
=(___)= | drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu  |           All Others Pay Cash
   U    | Douglas-Renze@uiowa.edu |

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Date: 14 Nov 93 14:26:29 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: What do I do now/
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1993Nov13.003516.27888@icaen.uiowa.edu> drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze) writes:
>Well, I'm almost ready to got on the air HF-wise for my first time.  I've
>got my random-wire tuner, a tranceiver, a random wire, cables to connect it
>all...all I lack at the minute is a counterpoise (well, multiple counterpoises
>for the 2-3 bands I want to get on to) and an SWR meter, which I should be
>getting in a few days.

Well you really don't need an SWR meter for a random wire installation,
but get one if you must. Just try not to be as fixated on obtaining low
SWR readings as most hams are. All you really need for a random wire
installation is a relative output indicator, a NE-2 bulb and loop will
work fine.

> Question:  Now what?  I don't have a clue about what the controls
>on the front of my trusty old HW-101 do (what's a Final?  What's a Drier
>erps...Driver Preselector?).  How do I regulate my power output?  In short,
>what in the world do I do?
> The manual doesn't give me any help, and I don't seem to be able to
>find anything which tells me just how to tweak everything and get on the air!!!

There are several schools of thought on rig tuning. Tune for maximum
smoke seems to be a common approach, as does the all knobs to the right
approach. But let's try to be a bit more rational. I haven't sat down
in front of a HW101 in years, so I'll restrict myself to general advice.

First set your band and frequency controls to the band and frequency
where you intend to operate. Switch the radio into the dummy load.
Your tuner may have one included, if not, *that* should be your first
purchase. Set the "load" control on the radio to minimum, usually fully 
counterclockwise, and set the driver tuning to the band of interest.
(Note, on many rigs the driver preselector and the receive preselector
are one and the same. In that case, before switching to the dummy load,
peak received signals with the control. That'll get you close to the
desired transmit setting.)

Now the next few steps have to be done rather quickly so read them through
until you understand them before proceeding. Find out how to place the
radio in transmit. There may be a "tune" position on a mode switch, and/or
you may have to put the radio in CW mode and close the key. Make sure
the meter is switched to PA amps. When you go into transmit, quickly
adjust the "plate tuning" control for a "dip" in the meter reading.
This will be the resonance point. The dip in the meter reading should
be rather sharp. The meter reading should be rather low at this point. 
Now adjust the driver tuning control for a maximum reading of the meter. 
This will "peak" the driver tuning for your operating frequency. Your 
manual should tell you the ideal plate current for the radio. You will 
alternately advance the loading control while redipping the plate tuning 
control until you achieve this current reading at resonance. The dip
will become less sharp as you increase loading.  Note: you should do this 
rather quickly, no more than 10 seconds of transmit at a time, or you can 
damage the finals. If it takes you longer, let the finals rest a few seconds 
between efforts by unkeying. At this point the radio should be properly tuned.

Now you need to adjust the tuner to present the radio with a 50 ohm
load. There are several ways to do this, but the best is with a noise
bridge. Switch from the dummy load to the tuner and insert the noise 
bridge in the line between the radio and the tuner. Adjust the tuner 
for a null in the receiver noise. At this point remove the noise bridge 
from the line and you are ready to transmit, all without ever putting a 
dead carrier on the air. This is the ideal tuning method, but if you
don't have a noise bridge, there are other ways.

If your tuner uses the typical circuit, there should be three adjustment
knobs. One will be called input tuning, one will be a switch for the
inductor taps, and the third will be output tuning. If your tuner is
an 'L' network, there will only be two controls, a tuning control and
the inductor switch. In some cases the inductor may be a roller inductor
with a turns counting dial instead. In any event, here's a method for
tuning up on the air. First select an unused spot in the band and tune 
the radio into the dummy as above. Switch to the tuner. Set the tuner's 
output tuning to minimum if you have that control. Now listening to the 
receiver, adjust the inductor taps, and input tuning, for strongest 
reception of atmospheric noise. Key the transmitter and adjust input 
tuning on the tuner for a dip on the radio plate meter. As before with 
tuning the transmitter, alternate between output tuning and input tuning 
controls on the tuner until the plate meter reads the proper current at 
dip. You're tuned up.  Alternatively, couple an output indicator to the 
antenna, and adjust output tuning for maximum output while adjusting 
input tuning for plate current dip.

If you bought that SWR meter anyway, you can place it between the
radio and the tuner and adjust the tuner's input tuning control 
for minimum SWR while adjusting output tuning for the desired plate
current and maximum output. 

This all sounds complicated, and requiring three hands, but it's
really easy once you get the hang of it, and you should be able
to tune the rig in 3 or 4 seconds. Once you get a feel for where
the controls should be on various bands, you'll preset them before
starting to tune, and all you'll need to do is quickly touch them
up.

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |   Life's a journey,   | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |   not a destination.  | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |   Live it.            | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                       | 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 23:48:47 EST
From: noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2blvdg$13fa@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, <1993Nov8.230739.14660@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <2boouf$12m3@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>  
Subject : Re: Radio Shack HTs

SOME of the Realistic scanners come out of the Uniden/Bearcat line, while others
are done in-house by Tandy.  Check the FCC ID on the unit to be sure -- AA0
means a Tandy design, AMW means Uniden.

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 03:59:10 GMT
From: spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!news.oc.com!csci-wiermac.etsu.edu!user@decwrl.dec.com
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1993Nov5.231254.15145@es.dupont.com>, <2bqons$4t7@ds9.sim.es.com>, <2c0c4v$gbc@wrdis02.robins.af.mil>ser
Subject : Re: Fun with Radio Shack

In article <2c0c4v$gbc@wrdis02.robins.af.mil>, sberman@robins.af.mil
(CONTRACTOR Steven G. Berman;WR-ALC/LKS) wrote:

> 
> Their rules don't allow that.  They've got this national software POS
> system ("last four digits") that has them scan in everything they
> sell.  If they give anything away, woe unto them!  What I did was wait

That may be, but it isn't distributed back to the stores - I go to
two different stores here 15 miles apart and they have totally 
separate data bases on customers...

======== insert usual disclaimers here ============
  Bob Wier, East Texas State U., Commerce, Texas
  wier@merlin.etsu.edu (watch for address change) 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 23:46:45 EST
From: noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CG6JDz.C5v@apollo.hp.com>, <2blvdg$13fa@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, <1993Nov8.230739.14660@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Re: Radio Shack HTs

Actually the clue is the FCC ID (for the receiver's Part 15 approval); it
starts with AA0, the code that is used for Tandy non-computer products.  Tandy
designed the rig themselves and hired the unnamed Korean maker (not one known
for its own brand, according to Ed Juge) to build from their drawings.

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