Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 18:28:50 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1329 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Tue, 9 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1329 Today's Topics: How Sensitive Are Front-Ends? ORBS$309.2L.AMSAT ORBS$309.MICRO.AMSAT ORBS$309.MISC.AMSAT ORBS$309.OSCAR.AMSAT ORBS$309.WEATH.AMSAT question about Rohn 25 tower sections WW-DX Fone 93 QSL info collection Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Nov 93 14:50:34 GMT From: ogicse!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu Subject: How Sensitive Are Front-Ends? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2bmn9j$d0q@oak.oakland.edu> sdkuo@argo.acs.oakland.edu writes: >How sensitive are the front-ends of my scanner, cell-phone and amateur >rig? My plan is to have an Icom2410 (up to 45/35 watts on 144/440), >scanner (wide-band) and cell-phone (3 watts on 800) all mounted in >my car. All three antennas will be at the rear end spaced approximately >2-3 feet from each other. The Icom antenna will be trunk-lip-mount, the >cell-phone antenna is glass mount at the top of the glass and the scanner >antenna will be trunk-lip-mount on the other side. With this configuration >is it safe to operate all three devices simultaneously without fear of >damaging front-ends? I run 2 meters, 70 cm, and cellphone in my truck. I use a Comet triplexer and a Comet dualband antenna. It's worked fine, but I've never tried transmitting on all three bands at once. It's very unlikely that the 70cm or cellphone will bother the 2 meter receiver, but the 2 meter transmitter may bother the 70 cm receiver and the 70 cm transmitter may bother the cellphone. I doubt you'll see any actual damage, however. The triplexer I use gives me more isolation than parallel separate antennas, so your problems may be more severe. Note that I'm using a dualband antenna for three bands. That's not ideal, but it seems to perform well with the cellphone. Comet does make a triband antenna, but it's a good bit taller. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV |"If 10% is good enough | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | for Jesus, it's good | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | enough for Uncle Sam."| emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -Ray Stevens | ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 14:06:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$309.2L.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-309.N 2Line Orbital Elements 309.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 5, 1993 BID: $ORBS-309.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 93304.58449144 -.00000081 00000-0 10000-3 0 2086 2 14129 27.1748 358.4423 6020940 126.4893 305.1053 2.05881853 78069 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 93305.54538526 .00000296 00000-0 54251-4 0 6090 2 14781 97.7991 325.8082 0011018 282.0872 77.9100 14.69077007516886 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87054A 93305.59183547 .00000065 00000-0 65036-4 0 8092 2 18129 82.9224 137.0717 0010991 302.1752 57.8336 13.72325432318697 AO-13 1 19216U 88051B 93307.23725473 .00000090 00000-0 10000-4 0 8089 2 19216 57.9066 286.1519 7212798 327.5952 3.5951 2.09718076 41261 FO-20 1 20480U 90013C 93305.55138133 -.00000003 00000-0 19656-4 0 6066 2 20480 99.0216 135.6374 0540941 135.2941 229.3106 12.83221774174934 AO-21 1 21087U 91006A 93304.53629287 .00000085 00000-0 82657-4 0 3646 2 21087 82.9426 311.9252 0036267 3.5583 356.5824 13.74527897138178 RS-12/13 1 21089U 91007A 93305.16779150 .00000049 00000-0 45798-4 0 6091 2 21089 82.9248 180.5404 0030819 24.3136 335.9466 13.74028945137333 ARSENE 1 22654U 93031B 93307.87458422 -.00000047 00000-0 10000-3 0 2064 2 22654 1.4047 114.5073 2932585 159.9734 215.1574 1.42202783 2556 UO-14 1 20437U 90005B 93305.79485889 .00000056 00000-0 29722-4 0 9096 2 20437 98.6068 28.5031 0011192 135.3995 224.8082 14.29800168197094 AO-16 1 20439U 90005D 93305.85927415 .00000042 00000-0 24160-4 0 7095 2 20439 98.6145 29.5723 0011602 136.0025 224.2083 14.29857546197119 DO-17 1 20440U 90005E 93305.76563670 .00000091 00000-0 42987-4 0 7097 2 20440 98.6158 29.7316 0011680 135.7129 224.4991 14.29994975197110 WO-18 1 20441U 90005F 93305.73713684 .00000063 00000-0 32288-4 0 7101 2 20441 98.6154 29.7202 0012272 136.2053 224.0105 14.29972911197110 LO-19 1 20442U 90005G 93305.73028990 .00000075 00000-0 36877-4 0 7090 2 20442 98.6164 29.9187 0012552 136.0090 224.2096 14.30064904197124 UO-22 1 21575U 91050B 93305.22118444 .00000087 00000-0 36302-4 0 4090 2 21575 98.4611 19.0489 0006839 252.1598 107.8843 14.36860705120341 KO-23 1 22077U 92052B 93305.58451707 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 3069 2 22077 66.0810 36.5184 0004304 343.4855 16.6013 12.86281631 57503 AO-27 1 22825U 93061C 93305.38322237 .00000057 00000-0 31218-4 0 2082 2 22825 98.6783 18.2116 0008754 149.2634 210.9045 14.27587035 5170 IO-26 1 22826U 93061D 93305.66096033 .00000076 00000-0 39017-4 0 2093 2 22826 98.6791 18.4934 0009019 149.5441 210.6266 14.27689613 5227 KO-25 1 22830U 93061H 93305.72284171 .00000098 00000-0 47343-4 0 2092 2 22830 98.5806 18.2166 0012009 119.7937 240.4440 14.28013237 5235 NOAA-9 1 15427U 84123A 93300.72651427 .00000099 00000-0 62608-4 0 6087 2 15427 99.0865 343.0970 0014906 151.8994 208.2999 14.13555759457494 NOAA-10 1 16969U 86073A 93308.02577200 .00000107 00000-0 53892-4 0 5086 2 16969 98.5151 318.8770 0012448 270.5362 89.4395 14.24841200370532 MET-2/17 1 18820U 88005A 93305.40899406 .00000032 00000-0 23367-4 0 2083 2 18820 82.5395 89.7759 0017369 97.5771 262.7364 13.84696069290834 MET-3/2 1 19336U 88064A 93305.55018966 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 2082 2 19336 82.5396 124.7724 0017722 109.4807 250.8231 13.16961800253299 NOAA-11 1 19531U 88089A 93307.95823027 .00000139 00000-0 84844-4 0 4080 2 19531 99.1482 286.6377 0012789 46.5585 313.6658 14.12928630263406 MET-2/18 1 19851U 89018A 93305.55168377 .00000050 00000-0 39042-4 0 2093 2 19851 82.5192 325.4084 0014919 140.2906 219.9350 13.84347900236194 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 93305.34380136 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 9103 2 20305 82.5448 68.1007 0016603 130.0738 230.1843 13.16022865193146 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 93305.67783111 .00000015 00000-0 79036-5 0 7095 2 20670 82.5480 29.1810 0017400 65.4367 294.8606 13.84179093169149 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 93305.63546907 .00000382 00000-0 27579-3 0 8145 2 20788 98.8527 327.8837 0014369 289.5569 70.4043 14.01323225161831 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 93305.58234679 .00000060 00000-0 49516-4 0 7088 2 20826 82.5271 327.0777 0013356 332.2781 27.7665 13.83562796156287 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 93305.01404630 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6113 2 21232 82.5424 330.9137 0013905 42.1675 318.0510 13.16456292121322 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 93308.09045315 .00000189 00000-0 93717-4 0 8155 2 21263 98.6458 335.5750 0012543 165.4607 194.6943 14.22328054128523 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 93305.42070734 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6096 2 21655 82.5506 277.5885 0014831 46.4002 313.8349 13.16825091106488 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 93305.69077331 .00000097 00000-0 83607-4 0 2086 2 22782 82.5501 26.7162 0022599 139.9349 220.3485 13.82989496 8644 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 93307.02460777 .00007548 00000-0 10004-3 0 5571 2 16609 51.6166 241.9916 0005351 357.5971 2.3966 15.59373937440783 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 93304.54445163 .00001034 00000-0 90245-4 0 3586 2 20580 28.4692 265.3717 0004590 39.2797 320.8122 14.92898437191907 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 93305.62490056 .00015490 00000-0 16723-3 0 2144 2 21225 28.4634 16.0411 0076168 268.0046 91.1839 15.58193508 21760 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 93305.16980968 -.00002638 00000-0 -22141-3 0 4109 2 21701 56.9842 352.6445 0005527 86.5474 273.6229 14.96241514116791 POSAT 1 22829U 93 61 G 93289.11726978 .00000072 00000-0 37231-4 0 2042 2 22829 98.6763 2.0610 0010043 184.4594 175.6498 14.27975951 2862 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 13:58:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$309.MICRO.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-309.D Orbital Elements 309.MICROS HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 5, 1993 BID: $ORBS-309.D TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: UO-14 Catalog number: 20437 Epoch time: 93305.79485889 Element set: 909 Inclination: 98.6068 deg RA of node: 28.5031 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011192 Arg of perigee: 135.3995 deg Mean anomaly: 224.8082 deg Mean motion: 14.29800168 rev/day Decay rate: 5.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19709 Checksum: 335 Satellite: AO-16 Catalog number: 20439 Epoch time: 93305.85927415 Element set: 709 Inclination: 98.6145 deg RA of node: 29.5723 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011602 Arg of perigee: 136.0025 deg Mean anomaly: 224.2083 deg Mean motion: 14.29857546 rev/day Decay rate: 4.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19711 Checksum: 298 Satellite: DO-17 Catalog number: 20440 Epoch time: 93305.76563670 Element set: 709 Inclination: 98.6158 deg RA of node: 29.7316 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011680 Arg of perigee: 135.7129 deg Mean anomaly: 224.4991 deg Mean motion: 14.29994975 rev/day Decay rate: 9.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19711 Checksum: 333 Satellite: WO-18 Catalog number: 20441 Epoch time: 93305.73713684 Element set: 710 Inclination: 98.6154 deg RA of node: 29.7202 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012272 Arg of perigee: 136.2053 deg Mean anomaly: 224.0105 deg Mean motion: 14.29972911 rev/day Decay rate: 6.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19711 Checksum: 274 Satellite: LO-19 Catalog number: 20442 Epoch time: 93305.73028990 Element set: 709 Inclination: 98.6164 deg RA of node: 29.9187 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012552 Arg of perigee: 136.0090 deg Mean anomaly: 224.2096 deg Mean motion: 14.30064904 rev/day Decay rate: 7.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19712 Checksum: 299 Satellite: UO-22 Catalog number: 21575 Epoch time: 93305.22118444 Element set: 409 Inclination: 98.4611 deg RA of node: 19.0489 deg Eccentricity: 0.0006839 Arg of perigee: 252.1598 deg Mean anomaly: 107.8843 deg Mean motion: 14.36860705 rev/day Decay rate: 8.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12034 Checksum: 308 Satellite: KO-23 Catalog number: 22077 Epoch time: 93305.58451707 Element set: 306 Inclination: 66.0810 deg RA of node: 36.5184 deg Eccentricity: 0.0004304 Arg of perigee: 343.4855 deg Mean anomaly: 16.6013 deg Mean motion: 12.86281631 rev/day Decay rate: .00000000 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 5750 Checksum: 255 Satellite: AO-27 Catalog number: 22825 Epoch time: 93305.38322237 Element set: 208 Inclination: 98.6783 deg RA of node: 18.2116 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008754 Arg of perigee: 149.2634 deg Mean anomaly: 210.9045 deg Mean motion: 14.27587035 rev/day Decay rate: 5.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 517 Checksum: 300 Satellite: IO-26 Catalog number: 22826 Epoch time: 93305.66096033 Element set: 209 Inclination: 98.6791 deg RA of node: 18.4934 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009019 Arg of perigee: 149.5441 deg Mean anomaly: 210.6266 deg Mean motion: 14.27689613 rev/day Decay rate: 7.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 522 Checksum: 311 Satellite: KO-25 Catalog number: 22830 Epoch time: 93305.72284171 Element set: 209 Inclination: 98.5806 deg RA of node: 18.2166 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012009 Arg of perigee: 119.7937 deg Mean anomaly: 240.4440 deg Mean motion: 14.28013237 rev/day Decay rate: 9.8e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 523 Checksum: 281 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 14:04:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$309.MISC.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-309.M Orbital Elements 309.MISC HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 5, 1993 BID: $ORBS-309.M TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: MIR Catalog number: 16609 Epoch time: 93307.02460777 Element set: 557 Inclination: 51.6166 deg RA of node: 241.9916 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005351 Arg of perigee: 357.5971 deg Mean anomaly: 2.3966 deg Mean motion: 15.59373937 rev/day Decay rate: 7.548e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 44078 Checksum: 335 Satellite: HUBBLE Catalog number: 20580 Epoch time: 93304.54445163 Element set: 358 Inclination: 28.4692 deg RA of node: 265.3717 deg Eccentricity: 0.0004590 Arg of perigee: 39.2797 deg Mean anomaly: 320.8122 deg Mean motion: 14.92898437 rev/day Decay rate: 1.034e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19190 Checksum: 308 Satellite: GRO Catalog number: 21225 Epoch time: 93305.62490056 Element set: 214 Inclination: 28.4634 deg RA of node: 16.0411 deg Eccentricity: 0.0076168 Arg of perigee: 268.0046 deg Mean anomaly: 91.1839 deg Mean motion: 15.58193508 rev/day Decay rate: 1.5490e-04 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 2176 Checksum: 283 Satellite: UARS Catalog number: 21701 Epoch time: 93305.16980968 Element set: 410 Inclination: 56.9842 deg RA of node: 352.6445 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005527 Arg of perigee: 86.5474 deg Mean anomaly: 273.6229 deg Mean motion: 14.96241514 rev/day Decay rate: -2.638e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 11679 Checksum: 319 Satellite: POSAT Catalog number: 22829 Epoch time: 93289.11726978 Element set: 204 Inclination: 98.6763 deg RA of node: 2.0610 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010043 Arg of perigee: 184.4594 deg Mean anomaly: 175.6498 deg Mean motion: 14.27975951 rev/day Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 286 Checksum: 317 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 13:47:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$309.OSCAR.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-309.O Orbital Elements 309.OSCAR HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 5, 1993 BID: $ORBS-309.O TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: AO-10 Catalog number: 14129 Epoch time: 93304.58449144 Element set: 208 Inclination: 27.1748 deg RA of node: 358.4423 deg Eccentricity: 0.6020940 Arg of perigee: 126.4893 deg Mean anomaly: 305.1053 deg Mean motion: 2.05881853 rev/day Decay rate: -8.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 7806 Checksum: 297 Satellite: UO-11 Catalog number: 14781 Epoch time: 93305.54538526 Element set: 609 Inclination: 97.7991 deg RA of node: 325.8082 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011018 Arg of perigee: 282.0872 deg Mean anomaly: 77.9100 deg Mean motion: 14.69077007 rev/day Decay rate: 2.96e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 51688 Checksum: 326 Satellite: RS-10/11 Catalog number: 18129 Epoch time: 93305.59183547 Element set: 809 Inclination: 82.9224 deg RA of node: 137.0717 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010991 Arg of perigee: 302.1752 deg Mean anomaly: 57.8336 deg Mean motion: 13.72325432 rev/day Decay rate: 6.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 31869 Checksum: 309 Satellite: AO-13 Catalog number: 19216 Epoch time: 93307.23725473 Element set: 808 Inclination: 57.9066 deg RA of node: 286.1519 deg Eccentricity: 0.7212798 Arg of perigee: 327.5952 deg Mean anomaly: 3.5951 deg Mean motion: 2.09718076 rev/day Decay rate: 9.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4126 Checksum: 324 Satellite: FO-20 Catalog number: 20480 Epoch time: 93305.55138133 Element set: 606 Inclination: 99.0216 deg RA of node: 135.6374 deg Eccentricity: 0.0540941 Arg of perigee: 135.2941 deg Mean anomaly: 229.3106 deg Mean motion: 12.83221774 rev/day Decay rate: -3.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 17493 Checksum: 281 Satellite: AO-21 Catalog number: 21087 Epoch time: 93304.53629287 Element set: 364 Inclination: 82.9426 deg RA of node: 311.9252 deg Eccentricity: 0.0036267 Arg of perigee: 3.5583 deg Mean anomaly: 356.5824 deg Mean motion: 13.74527897 rev/day Decay rate: 8.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 13817 Checksum: 327 Satellite: RS-12/13 Catalog number: 21089 Epoch time: 93305.16779150 Element set: 609 Inclination: 82.9248 deg RA of node: 180.5404 deg Eccentricity: 0.0030819 Arg of perigee: 24.3136 deg Mean anomaly: 335.9466 deg Mean motion: 13.74028945 rev/day Decay rate: 4.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 13733 Checksum: 313 Satellite: ARSENE Catalog number: 22654 Epoch time: 93307.87458422 Element set: 206 Inclination: 1.4047 deg RA of node: 114.5073 deg Eccentricity: 0.2932585 Arg of perigee: 159.9734 deg Mean anomaly: 215.1574 deg Mean motion: 1.42202783 rev/day Decay rate: -4.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 255 Checksum: 286 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 14:02:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$309.WEATH.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-309.W Orbital Elements 309.WEATHER HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 5, 1993 BID: $ORBS-309.W TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: NOAA-9 Catalog number: 15427 Epoch time: 93300.72651427 Element set: 608 Inclination: 99.0865 deg RA of node: 343.0970 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014906 Arg of perigee: 151.8994 deg Mean anomaly: 208.2999 deg Mean motion: 14.13555759 rev/day Decay rate: 9.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 45749 Checksum: 353 Satellite: NOAA-10 Catalog number: 16969 Epoch time: 93308.02577200 Element set: 508 Inclination: 98.5151 deg RA of node: 318.8770 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012448 Arg of perigee: 270.5362 deg Mean anomaly: 89.4395 deg Mean motion: 14.24841200 rev/day Decay rate: 1.07e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 37053 Checksum: 298 Satellite: MET-2/17 Catalog number: 18820 Epoch time: 93305.40899406 Element set: 208 Inclination: 82.5395 deg RA of node: 89.7759 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017369 Arg of perigee: 97.5771 deg Mean anomaly: 262.7364 deg Mean motion: 13.84696069 rev/day Decay rate: 3.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 29083 Checksum: 358 Satellite: MET-3/2 Catalog number: 19336 Epoch time: 93305.55018966 Element set: 208 Inclination: 82.5396 deg RA of node: 124.7724 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017722 Arg of perigee: 109.4807 deg Mean anomaly: 250.8231 deg Mean motion: 13.16961800 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 25329 Checksum: 300 Satellite: NOAA-11 Catalog number: 19531 Epoch time: 93307.95823027 Element set: 408 Inclination: 99.1482 deg RA of node: 286.6377 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012789 Arg of perigee: 46.5585 deg Mean anomaly: 313.6658 deg Mean motion: 14.12928630 rev/day Decay rate: 1.39e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 26340 Checksum: 329 Satellite: MET-2/18 Catalog number: 19851 Epoch time: 93305.55168377 Element set: 209 Inclination: 82.5192 deg RA of node: 325.4084 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014919 Arg of perigee: 140.2906 deg Mean anomaly: 219.9350 deg Mean motion: 13.84347900 rev/day Decay rate: 5.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23619 Checksum: 312 Satellite: MET-3/3 Catalog number: 20305 Epoch time: 93305.34380136 Element set: 910 Inclination: 82.5448 deg RA of node: 68.1007 deg Eccentricity: 0.0016603 Arg of perigee: 130.0738 deg Mean anomaly: 230.1843 deg Mean motion: 13.16022865 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19314 Checksum: 256 Satellite: MET-2/19 Catalog number: 20670 Epoch time: 93305.67783111 Element set: 709 Inclination: 82.5480 deg RA of node: 29.1810 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017400 Arg of perigee: 65.4367 deg Mean anomaly: 294.8606 deg Mean motion: 13.84179093 rev/day Decay rate: 1.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16914 Checksum: 306 Satellite: FY-1/2 Catalog number: 20788 Epoch time: 93305.63546907 Element set: 814 Inclination: 98.8527 deg RA of node: 327.8837 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014369 Arg of perigee: 289.5569 deg Mean anomaly: 70.4043 deg Mean motion: 14.01323225 rev/day Decay rate: 3.82e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16183 Checksum: 328 Satellite: MET-2/20 Catalog number: 20826 Epoch time: 93305.58234679 Element set: 708 Inclination: 82.5271 deg RA of node: 327.0777 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013356 Arg of perigee: 332.2781 deg Mean anomaly: 27.7665 deg Mean motion: 13.83562796 rev/day Decay rate: 6.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15628 Checksum: 325 Satellite: MET-3/4 Catalog number: 21232 Epoch time: 93305.01404630 Element set: 611 Inclination: 82.5424 deg RA of node: 330.9137 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013905 Arg of perigee: 42.1675 deg Mean anomaly: 318.0510 deg Mean motion: 13.16456292 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12132 Checksum: 241 Satellite: NOAA-12 Catalog number: 21263 Epoch time: 93308.09045315 Element set: 815 Inclination: 98.6458 deg RA of node: 335.5750 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012543 Arg of perigee: 165.4607 deg Mean anomaly: 194.6943 deg Mean motion: 14.22328054 rev/day Decay rate: 1.89e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12852 Checksum: 306 Satellite: MET-3/5 Catalog number: 21655 Epoch time: 93305.42070734 Element set: 609 Inclination: 82.5506 deg RA of node: 277.5885 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014831 Arg of perigee: 46.4002 deg Mean anomaly: 313.8349 deg Mean motion: 13.16825091 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 10648 Checksum: 294 Satellite: MET-2/21 Catalog number: 22782 Epoch time: 93305.69077331 Element set: 208 Inclination: 82.5501 deg RA of node: 26.7162 deg Eccentricity: 0.0022599 Arg of perigee: 139.9349 deg Mean anomaly: 220.3485 deg Mean motion: 13.82989496 rev/day Decay rate: 9.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 864 Checksum: 330 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 18:55:40 GMT From: ogicse!hp-cv!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu Subject: question about Rohn 25 tower sections To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Scott Ginsburg (ginsburg@wellfleet.COM) wrote: : I have the opportunity to pick up 4 10 ft sections of Rohn 25 tower for $100. : They're 25 years old, and have been sitting in a garage for the last : 18 years. They spent the first 7 years in a free-standing configuration, : no house brackets, no guys. The seller told me the tower has had 2 men : on top with no problem, and it lived through 2 hurricanes during the 7 : years. : My questions are: : 1. What are the chances that the bottom section, or any other : sections were weakened enough over 7 years to yield the tower : unsafe given the lack of secure installation? : 2. What signs can I look for that will indicate damage? : Some hints received via my local 2-mtr repeater: : 1. Rohn suggests 30 ft max for free-standing so 40 ft might : be OK, call Rohn (which I plan on doing). : 2. Look for egg shaped bolt holes. : 3. Look for twisting. You might add Look for obvious cracks...the smaller ones would have to be magnafluxed. What is the galvanize like? Still good? corrosion? I think I would be more concerned about the first 7 years than the last 18. Sitting in a garage should not cause problems, as long as the sections were not drven on, beat on, and in general abused. Another thing you might inquire about is what was the size of the antenna on top during the 7 years it was up. I think the 25G could support about 2 sq. ft. or so self supporting, but Rohn should be able to give you the answer. Jim Hollenback, WA6SDM jholly@cup.hp.com : Thanks and 73, : Scott, WA2CJT : -- : Scott Ginsburg Voice: 508-436-3836 : Wellfleet Communications Internet: ginsburg@wellfleet.com : 2 Federal St. Amateur Radio: WA2CJT : Billerica, MA 01821 Packet: wa2cjt@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 1993 10:46:25 +0200 From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!butler.cc.tut.fi!lehtori.cc.tut.fi!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net Subject: WW-DX Fone 93 QSL info collection To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >OH2X via OH-buro >OH0DX via OH2BAD de Pete oh3mep ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 93 14:19:25 GMT From: ogicse!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2blvfq$6m6@pith.uoregon.edu>, <8NOV199313080974@zeus.tamu.edu>, <931108.79382.GREGL@delphi.com> Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) Subject : Re: Care and Feeding LARGE Gel-Cells? In article <931108.79382.GREGL@delphi.com> Greg Law <GREGL@delphi.com> writes: >Somewhat along the same lines. . . > >I purchase two Panasonic LCR12V2.2P lead-acid batteries for use with the >HTX-202. These are fairly nice 2.2 amp/hour batteries that are about the same >size as my HTX-202. I've used these batteries for hours on end without >having to recharge them -- much better than the stock NiCds. The only >"problem" I've run into so far is charging them. I have a small lead-acid >charger of the type you can get in the Automotive departments at Wal-Mart, >K-Mart, Target, etc. that is settable between 2A/6A charging rates. So far >this charger seems to be working well but it's a manual type and I'm not >sure how long I should charge the batteries. What I've been doing is letting >the battery drop to about 10 to 10.5 volts then throwing it on the charger >and checking it every 30 minutes to an hour with a DMM. When the battery >voltage increases to about 12 volts, I remove them from the charger and >put them back in the carrying case. > >One thing is absolutely accurate: I could use some tips on charging lead-acid >batteries. The particular ones I have are stamped "Constant Voltage Charge" >with the ratings "cycle use: 14.6-15.0V and standby use: 13.6-13.8V." Inital >charge current is rated at 0.88A. Greg, those are good batteries for running HTs. You are only partially charging them though. The terminal voltage of a fully charged lead-acid cell should be 13.8 volts. This is only a "surface charge" that will quickly drop to about 12.5 volts under load. What you want is a constant voltage charger with current limiting. For slow charging, apply a voltage of 13.8 volts to the battery. It can stay on charge indefinitely at that voltage. For a more rapid and complete charge, use 14.5 volts and watch the battery temperature. When it starts to get warm, drop to 13.8 volts on the charger. Alternatively, a pulse charger can be used with voltage sampling between pulses. When the battery terminal voltage reaches 13.8, it's charged. Set the current limit so that you don't exceed the rated 0.88 A when the battery is first placed on charge. It'll draw more current when it's terminal voltage is low. As the terminal voltage increases, current draw will drop. A lab power supply makes an adequate charger. I've used the little Radio Shack lab supply for this purpose. One caveat, however, make sure you use a diode between the supply and the battery. If you don't, and the lab supply's AC power is interrupted for a moment, the battery will blow the 723 regulator IC in the supply. Allow for the 0.6 volt drop across the diode when setting charging voltage. I blew the regulator ICs in both the Radio Shack supply and in an Astron supply before I caught on to this problem. If you have something like a Systron-Donner, Motorola, or HP lab supply, they're already reverse voltage protected. Still, if you aren't sure, the diode is good insurance. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV |"If 10% is good enough | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | for Jesus, it's good | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | enough for Uncle Sam."| emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -Ray Stevens | ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1329 ****************************** ******************************