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Info-Hams Digest            Sun,  7 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1319

Today's Topics:
                        Alpha Bravo: Hungarian
                        ARRL files to ftp..???
                        BAUD VS BAUDS (2 msgs)
                         Baud vs BPS (2 msgs)
        Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 06 November
                         Fun with Radio Shack
                       Is this group cancelled?
                         Jameco Parts Catalog
                    Kenwood address - info needed
                           orbital elements
                    Questions about Yaesu FT-411E
                      SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
                SB nasa @ nasa < A66RMP $01H4GUVBLI2A

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 19:00:25 GMT
From: nmt.edu!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!ncar!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!bck1@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Alpha Bravo: Hungarian
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Since posting my collection of phonetic alphabets recently
I have found some further information. From a Hungarian
telephone directory the following Hungarian alphabet:

  Andra's Be'la Cecil Do'ra Eleme'r Ferenc Gizella Hajnalka
  Istva'n Ja'nos Katalin Luca Ma'tya's Na'ndor Olga Piroska
  Queen Ro'bert Sarolta Ti'mea Ubul Vilmos Walter Xe'nia
  Ypsilon Zolta'n


I now have reason to believe that the Amsterdam Baltimore
Edison Florida alphabet is [supposed to be] French.


Brian Kelk
Cambridge
U.K.
bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 18:51:53 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!uchdcc!tunga!ce2usm@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL files to ftp..???
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

'lo all!
I was snopping at arrl.org and I saw a lot of progs that I want to
come to my account... but the problem is that ARRL's BBS doesn't
support (does it?) ftp.... and a call from Chile to USA is too
expensive to do.. :)
I'm looking for a good ftp site where U can login as anonymous
(or guest or anything U like.. ) and get all teh progs U want.....
If somebody have a clue to do it please let me know.... please don't
e-mail to this account but to rrodrigu@loa.disca.utfsm.cl... and
please don't post replys on netnews 'cause I haven't an easy way to
acces news... :(
Thanks in advance for any information.......

ROD.
CE6NUG
rrodrigu@loa.disca.utfsm.cl
ce6nug@ce6fyt.radio.cl

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 06:52:23 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!msattler@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BAUD VS BAUDS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I've been trying to stay out of this discussion as best I could,
but in studying for my No-Code Technician test next week I came
across questions T1C03-T1C07 in Gordon West's Radio Shack prep
book: he uses bauds again and again.

My two cents worth.
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Digital Jungle Software    Encrypt now; ask me how.   (finger for PGP key)

               All that is required for evil to triumph is
                for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 07:41:09 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!aj467@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BAUD VS BAUDS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, msattler@netcom.com (Michael Sattler) says:

>I've been trying to stay out of this discussion as best I could,
>but in studying for my No-Code Technician test next week I came
>across questions T1C03-T1C07 in Gordon West's Radio Shack prep
>book: he uses bauds again and again.
>
>My two cents worth.
>-- 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael S. Sattler         msattler@netcom.com        +1 (415) 621-2903
>Digital Jungle Software    Encrypt now; ask me how.   (finger for PGP key)
>
>               All that is required for evil to triumph is
>                for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.
>
Two cents worth, hope you didn't pay too much for it :-)
Just kidding
 
Good luck.
This Baud's for you!

-- 
Bill VE3NJW, VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 93 17:54:07 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!mark@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Baud vs BPS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.hf.INTel.COM (Cecil A Moore) writes:

>Baud is listed as the first choice in the dictionary for the plural of
>baud; bauds is listed as second choice. I personally prefer a bawd.

Plural of Baud: as in many different Baud Rates, or many individual symbols?

:-/

Ciao -- 73 de VE6MGS/Mark

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 07:27:39 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!aj467@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Baud vs BPS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) says:

>Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.hf.INTel.COM (Cecil A Moore) writes:
>
>>Baud is listed as the first choice in the dictionary for the plural of
>>baud; bauds is listed as second choice. I personally prefer a bawd.
>
>Plural of Baud: as in many different Baud Rates, or many individual symbols?
>
>:-/
>
>Ciao -- 73 de VE6MGS/Mark
>
 Personally, having reflected on this subject for about a week. I
think BAUDS could be valid if one was to say, my modem supports 300,
600, and 2400 BAUDS. 


-- 
Bill VE3NJW, VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN

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Date: 7 Nov 93 23:12:44 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 06 November
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 310, 11/06/93
10.7 FLUX=097    90-AVG=094        SSN=047      BKI=4344 4324  BAI=021
BGND-XRAY=A7.5     FLU1=3.9E+06  FLU10=1.1E+04  PKI=4355 4434  PAI=027
  BOU-DEV=048,023,050,046,060,025,019,045   DEV-AVG=039 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B3.3   @ 2104UT    XRAY-MIN= A6.0   @ 0710UT   XRAY-AVG= B1.0
NEUTN-MAX= +001%  @ 2120UT   NEUTN-MIN= -003%  @ 1010UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.6%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1510UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 1535UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55374NT @ 0158UT   BOUTF-MIN=55320NT @ 1034UT  BOUTF-AVG=55345NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+062,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+116NT@ 1739UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-085NT@ 0917UT  G6-AVG=+084,+018,-043
 FLUXFCST=STD:095,095,095;SESC:095,095,095 BAI/PAI-FCST=018,015,010/020,015,012
    KFCST=2225 5212 1114 4111  27DAY-AP=025,022   27DAY-KP=4445 4334 4444 4424
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=**245STRM:0717-2102UTC
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 05 NOV 93 was  31.0.
      The Full Kp Indices for 05 NOV 93 are not available.
 

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Date: 8 Nov 93 01:39:32 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Fun with Radio Shack
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

A lot of RS customers got a mailing recently with (1) a coupon for a free
catalog, and (2) a discount card good for 10% off the regular price of any
one item each month.

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 00:18:11 EST
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!revcan!rubicon!pinetree!gordon@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Is this group cancelled?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

randy@cyphyn.radnet.com (Randy) writes:

> I take it amateur .misc is no longer on the net?

Why?

I see a healthy volume over here on my site.

  --G

--
  Internet:  gordon@pinetree.org              |     Guillotine operators
  UUCP:  ...!pinetree!gordon                  |      get severance pay.
  Packet:  VE3XGD@VE3JF                       |           * VE3XGD *
  Gordon's Pinetree - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada - +1 613 526 0702 - v32bis/v42bis

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 17:38:48 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis1.cis.uab.edu!right.dom.uab.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Jameco Parts Catalog
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I had heard rumors Jameco was coming out with a components catalog.
Got mine yesterday.  No chip capacitors, but 20 and 40 watt 2 meter
power amplifier kits, about $2 a watt output, 2 meter transceiver 
kit, and some other ham kits including some 20 and 40 meter QRP
kits.

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 23:10:29 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!umn.edu!msc.edu!news.stolaf.edu!mari.acc.stolaf.edu!buckij@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Kenwood address - info needed
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Greetings,

I haven't used my HT for about a year and a half. When I dug it out of the
box I found that I didn't have the manual. Could someone either post
or send me Kenwood's USA address? Or if there is an electronic version of
the TH-26AT manual somewhere, where can I find it?

jonathan bucki
n9mks

p.s. if you own one of these, and are feeling a bit kind, please send me
a few instructions, I'm completely lost and I don't know anyone who has
a TH-26AT in this area.

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Date: 7 Nov 93 19:13:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: orbital elements
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Anyone know what happened to the orbital elements that usually
come out on Friday nights?  Or were they somehow affected by
all those repeat messages about SAREX?

Tad Cook
KT7H
3288544@mcimail.com
tad@ssc.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 19:13:16 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!olivea!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!lynx!chaos.dac!wy1z@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Questions about Yaesu FT-411E
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <2b9l9lINN8pr@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> kayd@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (Kayd) writes:

   Path: lynx!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!ogicse!flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU!mundania.CS.ORST.EDU!kayd
   From: kayd@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (Kayd)
   Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
   Date: 4 Nov 93 01:18:45 GMT
   Article-I.D.: flop.2b9l9lINN8pr
   References: <CFxKw9.6Ms@rd1.InterLan.COM>
   Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
   Lines: 7
   NNTP-Posting-Host: mundania.cs.orst.edu

   The best way to hook the FT-411E up to power is to get the cigarette lighter
   adapter and then make a connection to a power supply of 3 amps or so.
   The 'E' model has an enhanced processor that works a little better is all..

   Darrek Kay
   Kayd@Prism.cs.orst.edu
   (503)737-9410

Unless I am mistaken, I think the only real difference between the 411 and
411E is that the 411E has the Tone Encode/Decode board built-in, where
it is extra for the 411.

Scott

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| Amateur Radio: wy1z          AX.25: wy1z@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa.na              |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on      |
|   the World - world.std.com  /pub/hamradio              |
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Date: 7 Nov 93 17:42:13 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

R:931105/2250Z @:VK1KCM.ACT.AUS.OC [Canberra, ACT] $:931029202643
R:931101/1118Z @:VK3BBS.VIC.AUS.OC [St Albans] #:106032 Z:3021 FBB5.15
R:931030/1353Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:59769 Z:77478
R:931030/0226z @:W5DDL.#LFTLA.LA.USA.NA [JNOS] #:46002 $:931029202643 Z:70503

SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.031
SAREX Keps & Update 10/30

Saturday 10/30/93 @ 00:00 UTC

Since all scheduled SAREX activities are now complete, several general 
QSO opportunities are available.  While the SAREX Working Group cannot 
fully guarantee that the crew will be operating, there is a high 
probability that the STS-58 astronauts will be ready to take general calls 
over the continental U.S. on these passes. These opportunities include a 
pass on orbit 192 at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC)
and a pass on orbit 193 at MET 12 days 0 hours 6 minutes (10/30 at 14:49 UTC).  
Please note that many hams on the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia 
crew on several orbits today.  Both voice and packet modes were operating.

Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, will continue to be 
the official SAREX element set for today.  On orbit 181 Gil Carman, WA5NOM, 
of the Johnson Space Center compared the orbiter state vector to GSFC-031.  
The state vector was 6 seconds later than this element set.  Other later 
element sets (e.g. GSFC-038) are currently less accurate than GSFC-031.

 STS-58
 1 22869U 93065A   93300.17699070 0.00133671  99048-5  24183-3 0   318
 2 22869  39.0252  71.9896 0012817  34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857  1383

 Satellite: STS-58
 Catalog number: 22869
 Epoch time:      93300.17699070         (27 OCT 93   04:14:51.** UTC)
 Element set:     GSFC-031
 Inclination:       39.0252 deg
 RA of node:        71.9896 deg          Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
 Eccentricity:    0.0012817                  Keplerian Elements
 Arg of perigee:    34.2105 deg
 Mean anomaly:     325.9529 deg
 Mean motion:   16.00500857 rev/day      Semi-major Axis: 6651.1630 Km
 Decay rate:       0.13E-02 rev/day*2    Apogee  Alt:        281.30 Km
 Epoch rev:             138              Perigee Alt:        264.25 Km


 NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031.
        The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
        node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
        into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.

Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group

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Date: 7 Nov 93 18:12:30 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: SB nasa @ nasa < A66RMP $01H4GUVBLI2A
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

R:931106/1449Z @:VK1KCM.ACT.AUS.OC [Canberra, ACT] $:9310242336.A
R:931102/0311Z @:VK3BBS.VIC.AUS.OC [St Albans] #:106277 Z:3021 FBB5.15
R:931101/2224Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:60462 Z:77478
R:931101/1839Z @:F5KEQ.FPDL.FRA.EU [Nantes] #:66425 Z:44087 FBB5.15-TCP/IP
R:931101/1711Z @:F6KSU.FPDL.FRA.EU [Laval] Z:53000 IN98OB $:9310242336.A
R:931030/0842Z @:F6DEG.FNOR.FRA.EU [Alen on] #:225144 Z:61000 FBB5.15
R:931030/0745Z @:FF5KAR.FNOR.FRA.EU [ROUEN] #:173458 Z:76000 FBB5.15
R:931030/0450Z @:F6ABJ.FRPA.FRA.EU [Paris 18] #:334247 Z:75018 FBB5.15
R:931029/1541Z @:F6KDS.FRPA.FRA.EU [Les Lilas] #:239599 Z:93260 FBB5.15
R:931029/1501Z @:VE2CSC.#MTL.PQ.CAN.NA [Chomedey] #:110184 Z:H7V1G1 FBB5.15
R:931029/1454Z @:VE2CRL.#MTL.PQ.CAN.NA [LAVAL] #:17840 Z:H7M1K6 FBB5.15
R:931029/1414Z @:VE2CEV.#MTL.PQ.CAN.NA [Mercier, PQ] #:107233 Z:J6R2K8 FBB5.15
R:931029/1316 58612@VE2FKB.#MTL.PQ.CAN.NA
R:931029/1338Z @:VE3NUU.#EON.ON.CAN.NA [Cornwall, ON] #:42523 Z:K0C1V0
R:931029/1315z 9562@VE3IWJ.#EON.ON.CAN.NOAM
R:931029/1123Z @:VE3CDY.#EON.ON.CAN.NOAM [Kingston] #:93738 Z:K7M7G1 FBB5.15
R:931029/0314Z @:VE3KPG.#ECON.ON.CAN.NA [PETERBOROUGH ON] #:38809 Z:K9H6B4 FBB5
R:931029/1103Z @:VE3OY.#SCON.ON.CAN.NA [Toronto] #:40022 Z:M3M2Z5 FBB5.15
R:931029/1050Z @:VE3SNP.#NIAG.ON.CAN Z:L3K3S1 #:119219 $:9310242336.A
R:931029/1025Z @:WA0PTV.#WNY.NY.USA.NA [c]#:100470 Z:14063 FBB5.15
R:931029/1028Z @:KA3SFC.#NWPA.PA.USA.NA [WARREN] FBB5.14d #:69223
R:931029/0107Z @:WA3ZCA.#NWPA.PA.USA.NA [GUYS MILLS] #:9733 Z:16327 FBB5.15
R:931028/2021 18811@W3UDX.#WPA.PA.USA.NOAM
R:931028/1415 36265@WB8LVP.OH.USA.NA
R:931028/1802z 27695@WB8BII.#NEOH.OH.USA.NOAM
R:931028/1720z 3362@WA8WNI.#SEOH.OH.USA.NA
R:931028/1357Z @:WA8GUG.OH.USA.NA Chillicothe #:22748 Z:45601
R:931028/1301Z @:N8GTC.#CIN.IN.USA.NOAM Brookville #:46903 Z:47012
R:931028/1113z 28602@W9OJ.IN.USA.NA
R:931028/1054z 21475@N5CEC.IN.USA.NA
R:931028/0228Z @:KK9G.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Indianapolis,In.] #:21179
R:931028/0231Z @:N5AAA.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Noblesville] #:34801
R:931027/1154Z @:KD9LP.#NCIN.IN.USA.NA [Amboy] #:26022 Z:46911 FBB5.15
R:931027/0918Z @:NU9H.#NWIN.IN.USA.NA [MIDWEST SATGATE] #:15557
R:931025/2235z @:WA8URE.#SWMI.MI.USA.NA Grand Rapids #:35721 Z:49508

STS-58 Keps (Orbit 58)

STS-58 element set JSC-010 (orbit 53)

STS-58
1 22869U 93 65  A 93294.86836529  .00191327  00000-0  25999-3 0   108
2 22869  39.0211 107.4394 0004523 319.1598  40.8836 15.96428488   535

Satellite: STS-58
Catalog number: 22869
Epoch time:      93294.86836529   =    (21 OCT 93   20:50:26.76 UTC)
Element set:     010
Inclination:       39.0211 deg
RA of node:       107.4394 deg           Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
Eccentricity:     .0004523              Keplerian Element set JSC-010
Arg of perigee:   319.1598 deg          from NASA flight Day 4 vector
Mean anomaly:      40.8836 deg
Mean motion:   15.96428488 rev/day              G. L. Carman
Decay rate:    1.91327e-03 rev/day~2      NASA Johnson Space Center
Epoch rev:              53
Checksum:              331

G.L.CARMAN


***************************** STS-58 STATE VECTOR**************************

                         FLIGHT DAY 5 STATE VECTORS
                            ON ORBIT OPERATIONS
                     (Posted 10/22/93 by Roger Simpson)


 The following vector for the flight of STS-58 is provided by NASA Johnson
 Space Center, Flight Design and Dynamics Division for use in ground track
 plotting programs.  The vector represents the trajectory of Columbia
 during on orbit operations.

 Lift off Time : 1993/291/14:53:09.974
 Lift off Date : 10/18/93

 Vector Time (GMT) : 295/14:00:00.00
 Vector Time (MET) : 003/23:06:50.030
 Orbit Count :  64
 Weight : 242925.0 LBS
 Drag Coefficient : 2.00
 Drag Area : 3000.0 SQ FT

      M50 Elements                           Keplerian Elements
 -----------------------                 --------------------------
 X    =    -2637440.4  FT                A          = 3600.1079 NM
 Y    =   -20942782.5  FT                E          =  0.001033
 Z    =     5675641.8  FT                I  (M50)   =  39.27150 DEG
 Xdot =  19697.390013  FT/S              Wp (M50)   = 113.55002 DEG
 Ydot =  -6469.479637  FT/S              RAAN (M50) = 102.02088 DEG
 Zdot = -14650.898454  FT/S            / N (True)   =  42.23202 DEG
                            Anomalies  \ M (Mean)   =  42.15251 DEG

                                         Ha         = 155.421   NM
                                         Hp         = 150.294   NM


 Mean of 1950 (M50)   : Inertial, right-handed Cartesian system whose
 Coordinate System      origin is the center of the earth.  The epoch
                        is the beginning of the Besselian year 1950.
                        X axis: Mean vernal equinox of epoch
                        Z axis: Earth's mean rotational axis of epoch
                        Y axis: Completes right-hand system
 A:    Semi-major axis
 E:    Eccentricity                         N:    True anomaly
 I:    Inclination                          M:    Mean anomaly
 Wp:   Argument of perigee                  Ha:   Height of apogee
 RAAN: Right ascension of ascending node    Hp:   Height of perigee

 Columbia will perform a 14 fps retrograde orbit adjust maneuver at
 5/06:50 MET.  The next state vector update will be performed after this
 maneuver has been completed.

 Questions regarding these postings may be addressed to Roger Simpson,
 Mail Code DM4, L.  B. J.  Space Center, Houston, Texas 77058,

 POSTED BY SSTICH AT VMSPFHOU ON VMSPFHOU.VMBOARDS:PAONEWS


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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 17:18:31 GMT
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To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CFzCLI.7Lq@cbnews.cb.att.com>, <CFzDws.Fpv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, <wb9omc.752453941@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>s.
Subject : Re: 10m Mobile

In article <wb9omc.752453941@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>, wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:
|> djadams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david jerome adams) writes:
|> 
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|> *I'm* not selling my 10M stuff at all.  What goes down will come back up.
|> How low it will go can be speculated or even SWAGed (Scientific Wild Ass
|> Guess).  Oddball short skip opportunities can still occur unless I have been
|> grossly misled.
|> 
|> But if you're hoping for local stuff on 10M you may be sorely disappointed.
|> I get the gut feeling that most people would rather do it on 2meters and
|> don't bother with 10.
|> 
|> Duane
|> 

Duane is right.  Also, in 5 or 6 years, the price of the rigs may go up.
I'd like people to do 2 things:

1.  Fire up the 10M rigs aperiodically just to see if 10M is alive and
    keep the electrolytics conditioned within the rig.

2.  Check for drug trafficers and 'free banders' on the low end of the
    band.  Once they move in, we'll have hell getting rid of 'em.
    Might be a chance for you to practice some of your code here.  :-)
    Another reason to learn the code.  They won't know who it is or what
    is going on.  You simulate a 'fox hunt' by keying a sequence, moving
    vfo a few hundred Hz, keying another sequence and move back and forth
    simulating what must be a QSO in progress for the purpose of tracking
    them down.   :-)
    Of course, somebody is gonna jump on my case about FCC regs here, but
    hey, the FCC will probably be occupied with the bozos, not me.  Is the
    FCC going to give up CW like the other agencies????  :-)  The 
    mind boggles at the possibilities here.  Kinda like gun control!

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