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Info-Hams Digest Fri, 5 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1311
Today's Topics:
3V8AS, anywone else?
811A Recommendations
From KB7 to KC7 prefix ?
Homosaturation
Kenwood IF-232
Observations on Kenwood TH-78 (2 msgs)
PC ham station software, info
Q codes
Radio Shack HTs (2 msgs)
SAREX KEPS & UPDATE 10/28
SAREX STS-58 QSL Cards
Swan 350 Info wanted
We've lost him, Jim! (2 msgs)
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 21:16:39 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!sauron!smith@uunet.uu.net
Subject: 3V8AS, anywone else?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I worked him last year on 10m and received my QSL ok via the IK manager
now waiting for my 17m QSL to arrive.
Only problem is that he has not submitted documentation to the mighty
all seeing all knowing ARRL DX committee. 8^)
He is in 3V8 land and DK2WV has met him.
73 Trevor G3WQO AB5EU still exiled in Texas.
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 23:22:43 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!woody@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 811A Recommendations
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Apologies for the previous post with the deleted text. My old news reader
has served me well, but here goes another try with an alternate.
I need to purchase 4 811A's to install vertically in a homebrew PA. RCA,
Penta Labs, and "house brand" (Soviet?) are options so far. If anyone in
netland has any recommendations, caveats, and/or other information, please
let me know. I'm back into the hobby after a 27 year absence and miss the
warm glow of tubes (W* callsign also).
Thanks,
Woody Lemcke (KB5YKK)
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 09:06:16 -0700
From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com!user@uunet.uu.net
Subject: From KB7 to KC7 prefix ?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CFu19K.JoM@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, davidc@lsid.hp.com (David Cook)
wrote:
> When region 7 runs out of KB7 prefix call signs what does the KC7 batch start
> at? KC7AA ? KC7AAA ?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know. Well, at least mine does.
>
> Dave, KB7QCL
Dave:
My boys just got their licenses two days ago, KB7ZIU and KB7ZIV, so it is
getting close. My 12 year old was glad that he missed getting KB7ZIT (but
it was close!) A teenager with ZITs would not like that. My opinion says
that KC7AAA will be the first KC7 call, but who cares about my opinion?
Anyway, the "General" calls in region 7 are exhausted, so Novice through
General in Region 7 have been getting 2 x 3 calls. The Advanced calls have
been coming in as KI7xx in 2 x 2 format.
Milt
--
=========================================================================
Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).
"He flies the sky KB7MSF/AG
Like an Eagle in the eye Amateur Radio
of a hurricane that's abandoned." "Sandman"
Utah
America
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Date: 5 Nov 93 04:34:31 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Homosaturation
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>Support immorality or we will sue you, this seems to be the gay's message.
Hey guys, could we change this thread to talk about Hams with bipolar
personalities who ride Harleys and are members of Mensa? That would be
a lot more interesting to me.
73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
(I do not speak for Intel on Internet)
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Date: 4 Nov 93 23:44:34 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Kenwood IF-232
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Someone asked:
| I am trying to use software called KTWIN to control a Kenwood TS140S
| transceiver. However an interface from the receiver to the PC serial
| port is required. Kenwood produce one called an IF 232 but is quite
| expensive. I understand that is possible to "home brew" such an
| interface. Does anyone know if a circuit is available of an
| equivalent or if if a circuit is stored at an FTP site?
| Thanks.
I have a long answer and no address to send it to. Please EMail me and I
will reply.
Lowell Brunson (503) 681-0417
Rosenet: lbrunson@roland.co.jp
Internet: lbrunson@rodgers.rain.com (preferred)
lowell@techbook.com
Packet Radio: KC7DX@K7IQI.OR.USA.NA
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Date: 4 Nov 93 22:36:17 GMT
From: news.encore.com!wizard!slightbo@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Observations on Kenwood TH-78
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CFvzJ8.KDt@kaiwan.com>, andrew@kaiwan.com (Andrew Parker) writes:
> Since there's been alot of news lately on the Kenwood TH-78 handhelds,
> I thought I'd post an observation that I've had for the past few months.
> Here in Southern California, there is a rapidly growing radio club
> named the 78'ers. For the most part, they all seem to worship and
> be very dependant on their 78's. I find it humorous that they all
> seem to think that just because they paid an arm and a leg for a
> radio that has WAY too many whistles and bells on it, that it will
> perform miracles for them. They seem to have a habit of not hooking
> the HT's up to an external antenna, so subsequently, they always
> sound like crap.
>
> I decided to "test-drive" a friend's 78 one day, and was truly
> dissappointed. On top of the disgustingly poor intermod rejection,
> the battery life was nil, even though it was a fresh battery that
> had been fully charged the day before. I think it died on me within
> about 4 hours, and I wasn't talking all that much. And, the damn thing
> is SO small, that everytime I tried pushing a button, I ended up hitting
> a few others in the process.
>
> So, in conclusion, finally, I think I'll stick with my Alinco 580,
> which was quite a bit less money, and seems to work quite a bit better
> than the Kenwood TH-78. Please, people, buy whatever you want, but
> if you're planning on using your new HT in an area with RF obstructions,
> buy a less expensive radio, and spend the left-overs on a decent antenna
> system. My $0.02.
>
What about the Yaesu FT-530. Whould that be a comparable rig? Better? or
Worse? Has anyone used the FT-530. Can it be modified? Does the rx range
go below 130 MHz.
I listen to the aircraft band and the FT-530 has features for Ham radio
that I like.
Any comments?
======================================================================
,---------------. Sam Lightbourne, KI4JJ
,-+-------------. | Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
| | E N C O R E | | slightbo@.encore.com
| `-------------+-'
`---------------'
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 22:50:43 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!kaiwan.com!andrew@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Observations on Kenwood TH-78
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In <2b9q50$5du@cnn.sim.es.com> FORRELL@130.187.198.34 (FORRELL) writes:
>I find it hard to run mine down! I have the 1100 ma extended battery pack
>and it never seems to go down. I have owned several HT's and the TH-78
>Fred Orrell
>WB5NOE
I think anything with an 1100 ma battery is going to last forever, no
matter how much the radio's consumption is. But, I guess it is quite
possible that the particular radio I tested was draining the battery
especially fast, maybe due to the relatively high amounts of taffic
on the repeaters in this area. It had to receive a signal continuously
without a break. That eats up some battery power.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------
| Andrew Parker | KD6TGM | andrew@kaiwan.com |
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Date: 4 Nov 93 23:18:22 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.lsu.edu!unix1.sncc.lsu.edu!xp2770@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: PC ham station software, info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello all!
I'm looking for a computer program (DOS, I guess, or Windows)
called "Ham Windows" (?) by Kenwood. One of my friends in India, VU2IJ,
wants to have this for his shack. It seems to be some kind of all-
singing, all-dancing log + rotor control + keyer software.
What does it really do? And, how much does it cost?
Most importantly, is there any good public-domain equivalent
for DOS/Windows available from any ftp site? Please help; reply
directly to pdastoor@gumbo.age.lsu.edu. Thanks.
Phiroze Dastoor
(ex-VU2SAS; soon to have
a W/K call...)
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 19:32:06 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!nrtpa038!brtph560!brtph87!tcain@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Q codes
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
> QPP: I have to go to the bathroom.
^^^
And I always thought it was...\
QTJ: Quick Trip to the John
--
Tom Cain WB8OUE tcain@bnr.ca
disclaimer: i don't speak for nobody!
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Date: 5 Nov 93 03:05:50 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!odin!trier@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Radio Shack HTs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2bbr07$673@jericho.mc.com>, Bob Levine <levine@mc.com> wrote:
>I haven't heard a bit of intermod from my FT530. I can't remember
>hearing any from my W2A or my 32AT in normal every day use.
One thing to keep in mind is that when someone says "intermod", they
may mean intermodulation, front-end overload, or any other sort of
spurious reception.
My $0.02: Be careful to control for differences in the antenna or the
location when comparing two HTs. It can make all the difference.
Anyway, I agree, some good lab measurements of HT resistance to
interference would make interesting reading. It would be interesting
to quantify what is so far a strictly qualitative debate.
Stephen
--
Stephen Trier KB8PWA "[I]t's time to put your power supply under the
Work: trier@ins.cwru.edu cardboard pyramid in the fridge with the oranges
Home: sct@po.cwru.edu and razor blades under it."
- jangus@skyld.tele.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 00:59:36 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Radio Shack HTs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
levine@mc.com (Bob Levine) writes:
>In article GREGL@delphi.com, Greg Law <GREGL@delphi.com> () writes:
>-->Several people in the area (including myself) use the Realistic HTX-202
>-->and are very pleased with them. They are rugged and dependable units (I've
>-->dropped mine on concrete and it still keeps ticking), come with everything
>-->you need, and have have a very tight front-end. Of course this means that
>-->the HTX-202 isn't nearly as prone to intermod as some of the others. What
>-->I particularly like about Radio Shack is that they sell the HTX-202 and
>-->HTX-404 with everything -- DTMF encode and decode, CTCSS encode and decode,
>-->auto-dial, etc. -- whereas most other companies sell the bare-bones HT
>-->and make everything else optional, extra-cost items. Quite frankly, I'm
>-->amazed some of the others actually include a rubber duck antenna as standard
>-->equipment when they could sell them as a $30 to $50 add-on. :-)
>-->
>--> -- Greg KE4DPX
I'll second all this. I've knocked mine from 5' on to concrete. Didn't even
fracture the case. Is an excellent buy for the $$$, IMHO.
>Actually most HT's these days include all that standard. Why spend $250 for
>a 2m mono band RS HT and then another $250 (?) for a monband 440 RS HT when
>for way less that $500 you can get quality dual banders? My FT530 has no
>optional extras and the total price was $429. All of those features you
>mention plus a hell of a lot more are included.
Problem is, all the dual-banders/expanded coverage HT's I've run across
seem to have nasty intermod probs. I haven't had any regrets about buying the
'202. Now, if somebody would come out with a narrow bandpass filter kit to
replace the tight front-end that these HTs *should* have, then I might agree
with what you've got to say about buying a dual-bander...
--
__ /| | Douglas J Renze, N0YVW |
\'o.O' | +1 319 337 4664 | IN GOD WE TRUST
=(___)= | drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu | All Others Pay Cash
U | Douglas-Renze@uiowa.edu |
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Date: 4 Nov 93 19:34:25 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: SAREX KEPS & UPDATE 10/28
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
R:931104/1650Z @:VK4DGQ.QLD.AUS.OC [Brisbane] #:36660 $:931028050312
R:931103/0148Z @:VK1KCM.ACT.AUS.OC [Canberra, ACT] $:931028050312
R:931102/1100Z @:OH3RBR.#TRE.FIN.EU [Tampere] #:72363 Z:33720 $:931028050312
R:931102/0852Z @:OH6RBV.#VAA.FIN.EU [Vaasa] #:104613 FBB5.15 Bid:931028050312
R:931102/0835Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:60679 Z:77478
R:931031/1459Z @:KB2EAR.NJ.USA.NA $:931028050312 #:3519 Z:08824 FBB5.15
R:931031/1418z @:W2XO.#SWPA.PA.USA.NOAM [Pittsburgh] O:ABFHB #:85467 Z:15044
R:931031/1219Z @:KA3RWP.#WPA.PA.USA.NA [VERONA,PA] #:52995 Z:15147 FBB5.15
R:931031/1112Z @:K3OIW.#WPA.PA.USA.NA [Independence Twp] #:54151 Z:15001 FBB5.1
R:931031/1004z @:K8LG.WV.USA.NOAM #:51657
R:931031/0935z @:WA8OMR.#NWV.WV.USA.NOAM Glendale, Wv. #:836 B:931028050312
R:931031/0539z 54955@WB8CQV.WV.USA.NA
R:931030/1600z 34858@KA8DRR.#SEOH.OH.USA.NA
R:931030/1552Z @:WA8GUG.OH.USA.NA Chillicothe #:23176 Z:45601
R:931030/1514Z @:N8GTC.#CIN.IN.USA.NOAM Brookville #:47346 Z:47012
R:931030/0718z 29215@W9OJ.IN.USA.NA
R:931030/0652z 22073@N5CEC.IN.USA.NA
R:931030/0540Z @:KK9G.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Indianapolis,In.] #:21727
R:931030/0537Z @:N5AAA.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Noblesville] #:35453
R:931029/1256Z @:KD9LP.#NCIN.IN.USA.NA [Amboy] #:26400 Z:46911 FBB5.15
R:931029/0636Z @:NU9H.#NWIN.IN.USA.NA [MIDWEST SATGATE] #:15967
R:931028/1900z @:WA8URE.#SWMI.MI.USA.NA Grand Rapids #:36038 Z:49508
SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.025
SAREX Keps & Update: 10/28
Thursday 10/28/93 @ 08:00 UTC
The last school group contact was completed yesterday. The Portsmouth HS
in Portsmouth, New Hampshire had a telebridge contact using stations in
California (Ralph Warner, N6MNN) and Texas (Bob Douglas, W5GEL). The
students asked 5 questions during this bridge contact.
Hams across the U.S. and around the world continue to work the Shuttle
Columbia on both voice and packet. Moreover, the completion of school
group contacts has cleared several school backup passes for possible
general QSO opportunities. While the SAREX Working Group cannot fully
guarantee availability, there is a high probability that the STS-58 crew
will be ready to take general calls over the continental U.S. on these
passes. Two of these "scheduled" passes remain. These include orbit
178 at MET 11 days 1 hour 42 minutes (10/29 at 16:35 UTC) and orbit 192
at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC). Please note
that the astronauts operated voice during yesterday's "scheduled" pass
which occurred on 10/27 at 14:59 UTC (Orbit 145). Also note that hams on
the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia crew on several other orbits
yesterday.
Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, is the official SAREX
set for today. Please note that there is only a six second difference
between element set GSFC-025 (released two days ago) and element set GSFC-
031.
STS-58
1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318
2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383
Satellite: STS-58
Catalog number: 22869
Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTC)
Element set: GSFC-031
Inclination: 39.0252 deg
RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements
Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg
Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg
Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6651.1630 Km
Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km
Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km
NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031.
The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group
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Date: 4 Nov 93 14:17:53 EST
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: SAREX STS-58 QSL Cards
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
STS-58 QSL cards should be sent to ARRL, SAREX STS-58 QSL, 225 Main Street,
Newington, CT 06111.
To receive a QSL, include the QSO information (e.g. date, time in UTC,
frequency, mode) which documents the contact or listener report. In addition
you must also include a SASE using a large (9 x 4), business sized envelope if
you wish to receive a card. No cards will be distributed without the proper
postage affixed or sufficient IRCs included. Please expect a lengthy (6-10
month) wait after the mission to receive your QSL card. Development of a SAREX
QSL card can be a very lengthy process.
Congratulations on working (or hearing) Space Shuttle Columbia and the
astronaut-crew during STS-58!
Posted by:
Robert J Inderbitzen, NQ1R | voice: (203) 666-1541 X213
Educational Activities Department | fax: (203) 665-7531
American Radio Relay League | email: rinderbi@arrl.org
225 Main Street | ARRL BBS: (203) 666-0578
Newington, CT 06111 USA | CompuServe: 70007,3373.
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Date: 5 Nov 93 02:09:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Swan 350 Info wanted
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>
>I have a chance to buy a Swan 350 in "excellent" condition. I know nothing
>about this rig other than that it puts out 300 W and is probably old.
>Anyone have one or know how they do? Are they tube or solid state, analog
>frequency display, modes, bands covered, general coverage receiver, built
>in filters, suitable for HF packet? Also, what would be a good price? The
>owner is asking $325, including speaker and power supply.
>
>Mark KA3LFG
>
Swan 350's and 500's came about in the late 60's. They have tubes
and some transistors. Five bands, 80-10 on both receiver and
transmitter. No general coverage receive capability. Analog
dial/display, were for CW, SSB, and a form of AM. $325 if it
truly is "excellent" is probably a fair price for the whole
thing.
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Date: 3 Nov 1993 09:26:46 -0600
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!hermes.chpc.utexas.edu!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!kharker@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: We've lost him, Jim!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2b8dvg$7j6@oak.oakland.edu>, prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes:
|> I thing one of the TOP TEN "big ham radio lies" is that you can work an
|> orbiting object with an HT. OSCAR 21 is supposedly one such satelite
|> and from my experience you need several dozen watts and a yagi which can
|> be pointed at the "bird" as it fly overhead.
|>
|> Verticals have too low an angle of radiation to work a satelite which is
|> higher than 30 degree or so above the horizon.
|>
|> On the bright side, you can HEAR many of these satelites with even a
|> cheap scanner. Try it!
|>
|> paul wb8zjl
|>
Well, what if you had a 5W to 60W 2m amp and the appropriate antenna
system? Would it work then? Granted, if you were going to spend $400 on
an amp and antenna, in my mind you might want to go all the way and buy a
VHF/UHF rig meant for this stuff, but what if you already had the amp,
and you could afford the antenna system, but not the $1000 rig?
(This is all conjecture for me, as I am finding it difficult to
justify the money for an HT, personally - much less anything more expensive
than that...)
--
======================================================================
Kenneth E. Harker BNR "Any opinions expressed
kharker@bnr.ca Richardson, Texas, USA are solely mine and do
N1PVB (214) 684-5115 not represent BNR"
======================================================================
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 16:20:55 GMT
From: utcsri!utnut!torn!csd.unb.ca!UPEI.CA!seeler@uunet.uu.net
Subject: We've lost him, Jim!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <msattlerCFwMLx.9sD@netcom.com>
msattler@netcom.com (Michael Sattler) writes:
>Subject: We've lost him, Jim!
>I've heard it said that it's possible to hear MIR, the Space Shuttle,
>OSCAR, etc. with an HT and position-plotting software, tables, etc.
>
>Is it possible (or likely or routine) to speak with orbitals via a
>5-watt HT and a rubber duck or mobile antenna (like a Diamond
>3-5 db gain model)?
>--
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael S. Sattler msattler@netcom.com +1 (415) 621-2903
I do not know if it is common - but a fellow Charlottetowner (VY2BP) here on
PEI had an unexpected - but pleasent QSO with a previous shuttle mission
using a hand held - at less than 5 watts. It was heard by a number of VY2s
in the area.
Dave VY2DCS
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Date: 5 Nov 93 03:47:11 GMT
From: noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CFzCLI.7Lq@cbnews.cb.att.com>, <CFzDws.Fpv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, <wb9omc.752453941@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject : Re: 10m Mobile
Dave, I would suggest you keep your 10 meter mobile gear, as there
are at least two easy-to-work Russian satellites that can be heard on
29 mhz. One uses 2 meter SSB/CW (RS-10) and the other uses 15 meter
SSB/CW (RS-12.)
Both probably pass over your QTH about 5 or 6 times a day, with
passes ranging up to about 17 minutes in length.
If the band is completly dead, and you're totally bored, listen on
29.357 for the CW beacon of RS-10. Once you hear the beacon, start
scanning between 29.360 and 29.400 for the live users. You may
hear stations thousands of miles away.
RS-12 is very similar; its beacon is on 29.408, with the transponder
output between 29.410 and 29.450.
I've worked RS-10 with just 10 watts of 2 meter SSB into a mobile
mag-mount, and listened to the "downlink" on just a CB whip.
73 from Leigh Marrin/KM6JE in Santa Barbara.
(And a dirty little secret.... most of the current 10 meter mobile
rigs can be easily expanded to cover CB and a little below. With
the moronic mind-set of most CBers it may not be worth the trouble,
however.)
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