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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1304
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Info-Hams Digest Tue, 2 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1304
Today's Topics:
3V8AS, anywone else?
Email_Callbook_server
EMI/RFI from Hidden Fence
Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
Kenwood IF-232
Mods for FT-290RII
N8EMR_BBS_INFO
Repeater Trivia Question.
SAREX Keps & Update 10/28
TS-820S+17m+DC FOR SALE
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 19:20:07 GMT
From: crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!peavax.mlo.dec.com!usenet@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: 3V8AS, anywone else?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2b5o10$4lo@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
> Worked 3V8AS (Tunisia) on Sunday on 17m CW. The GO list says to QSL via
> IK5GQM. Any comments? Is this a SLIM?
No, it's a real operator in Tunisia. His credentials have not been
accepted by the ARRL DXCC desk, though.
- Jim AD1C
--
Jim Reisert AD1C Internet: reisert@mlo.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...decwrl!mlo.dec.com!reisert
146 Main Street - MLO3-6/C9 Voice: 508-493-5747
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 06:00:34 GMT
From: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Email_Callbook_server
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
EMAIL CALLSIGN SERVER
US CALLS ONLY
(access interface changed..)
For those who do not have telnet access to marvin or one of the other
Internet callsign servers here is an alternative.
N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553 has an email server up and running.
The Server is based on Buckmasters Fall 92 database.
------------------------- INTERNET AND CIS USERS -------------------------------
Mail should be addressed to
callbook@n8emr.cmhnet.org
You MUST use the reply line now.. To many people with bad
reply paths.. I got tired of seeing the errors bounced back to me.
There are two command line options. One is REPLY. This command
is used to specify the return path to use for the callbook request.
You can use internet @ or bang ! path format.
The second command is CALL. This command is used to specify a list of
callsigns. Each call sign is seperated by a white space. All other
lines and info are ignored.
E.G.
# mail callbook@n8emr.cmhnet.org
REPLY user@site.domain (your reply path, ! or @ format.)
CALL n8emr w5rrr (list of calls, space seperated)
^D
#
-------------------------- PACKET RADIO ----------------------------------------
Mail should be sent to CBOOK@N8JYV.#CMH.OH.USA.NA
You MUST use both the REPLY and CALL option lines.
The REPLY line should be as follows n8jyv!HOME_BBS!CALL, where
HOME_BBS is your local packet bbs where you would normal pick up
your mail, CALL is your callsign.
You must include the n8jyv! in your reply path.. Packet mail will fail
without this.
E.g.
SP CBOOK@N8JYV.#CMH.OH.USA.NA
Subject ^M
REPLY n8jyv!w8cqk!n8emr
CALL n8emr w1aw
/EX
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Date: 2 Nov 93 23:17:21 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@hplabs.hp.com
Subject: EMI/RFI from Hidden Fence
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Ed Hare - KA1CV (ehare@arrl.org) wrote:
: Well, there is probably a strong 15.75 kHz em field around most TVs,
: the frequency of the horizontal sweep. The horizontal sweep waveforms
: are rich in harmonics (appearing as a rough buzz every 15 kHz even
: in HF bands). The Hidden Fence receiver is approximately 32 kHz, so
: it is real close. Either the 15 kHz fundamental, or harmonics, are
: activating the collar.
: This is much like the feeling I get when I am wearing my tie at work --
: I wonder if . . .
You mean your tie shocks you when the other staffers are watching tv? :-)
Wow, I knew there was a reason not to wear a tie to work!
Jim, WA6SDM
jholly@cup.hp.com
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 20:16:15 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat!olivea!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!perot.mtsu.edu!raider!theporch!jackatak!root@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
alan@olin.es.com (Alan Brubaker) writes:
> In article <1993Oct27.200502.9559@VFL.Paramax.COM> rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM
> >I was talking to a friend about how dead the bands seemed lately - 10 meters
> >especially, yet we both noted the following:
> Good observation - 10 meters has been quiet for the past couple of
> months, but if you hang around enough, you can catch an opening now
Yes, this is true. What is also true, and largely explains the
"dead-band" phenomena is that many hams just ASSUME (incorrectly, I
might add) that the bands are dead because "everyone knows that"... so
they don't TRY.
If you check for beacons on 10 meters, you'll know whether (and more
importantly TO WHERE) the band is open early, and have the advantage
of being one of the early ones to cash in...
For 15 meters, try listening for HCJB at 21.455. Granted this is a
real POWERHOUSE from high in the Andes, but if HCJB is running 20 over
S9, then the band is probably open for transequatorial...
Reak issue here is listening, knowing what to listen for, and then
calling CQ. You do NOT have to run "soup" when the bands suddenly
opens, you just have to BE THERE!!!
I recall, during the pits of the last sunspot dip, hearing a station
in Missouri yakking with a station in San Diego, both bitching about
how dead the band was... I could hear them, and their signals were
fairly stout, so I tuned around, and about 15KHz above them worked a
TON of ZL, VK, JA, YB, VU all the while they were still staying in one
place (leaving me alone to the feast! ;^) and just bitching about
conditions... I thought conditions were pretty fine that night!
> >Why is it that the band can be open to a specific area of the world yet you
> >only hear a very few stations from that area??
Because the rest of the world doesn't listen to beacons and dead bands
any better than the rest of us do.
> Sometimes the one station that you hear will have an exceptionally
> good transmitting system (KW, beam high in the air) - and the other
> stations running low power and a dipole are just not as visible.
Or, he was just there and "cashed in" when the opening happened...
> >When is the bottom of the sunspot cycle predicted for anyway? '95? '96?
> As we get into the depths of the sunspot minimum, the stations that
> have the large antenna systems will stand out more and more.
This is probably true, but it is also true of *all* times. The better
antenna system will make an otherwise average station sound
supercharged -- and it is more fun than feeding the electric power
utility!!! ;^)
73, Jack/W4PPT
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| P. O. Box 1685 |Modem: (615) 377-5980 - Bicycling and SCUBA Diving |
| Brentwood, TN 37024|Fax: (615) 459-0038 - Life Member - ARRL |
| root@jackatak.raider.net - "Plus ca changer, plus c'est la meme chose" |
+--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--+
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Date: 2 Nov 93 23:17:40 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Kenwood IF-232
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone have a circuit or know of an equivalent circuit for
the Kenwood IF-232 interface.
I am sure I have seen this mentioned on the list previously.
If the info is available at an FTP site, any info regarding that
would be appreciated.
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Date: 2 Nov 93 23:09:24 GMT
From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!ns1.nodak.edu!badlands.NoDak.edu!walth@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mods for FT-290RII
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone know if there are any mods available for the Yaesu FT-290 to
allow it to recieve out of band? (preferably into the 170Mhz range)
Thanks in advance..
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 06:00:30 GMT
From: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: N8EMR_BBS_INFO
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The N8EMR Ham bbs is online to serve the needs of the
amateur radio operators..
HOW TO ACCESS THE N8EMR HAM RADIO TELEPHONE BBS !!!
System Name: N8EMR
Phone: 614-895-2553
Login: hbbs
Modems: TB2500 PEP/V.32 support
Times: 24hrs
IP Address: 44.70.0.1
Amateur radio annonymous ftp access is available via the ohio
netrom/ip network. CMHIP is the Netrom node Id and is known
by most of the nodes in ohio. (its slow but it works)
This is only via the ohio packet network. This sytem
is not available via the "INTERNET".
To access the system via the dialup, at the login prompt type hbbs
(lower case only), you will then enter the BBS program. Follow the
directions from the bbs prompts.
I attempt to keep the latest and greatest HAM software on-line, and
encourage all to upload Here is some of software that is available
for downloading.
NEWHAM area. Pick the tools you need to become a ham
AMSAT news and satellite keplerian elements
KA9Q TCP/IP Software for various computers,
ARRL related files
Latest packet bbs programs and utilitys.
Modifications for HAM Rigs and Scanners
DX and contesting programs
Many Packet related programs
Scanner, shortwave and TVRO files and messages.
NASA NEWS..
Online Callsign lookup.
Question or comments to
Gary W. Sanders (gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org), 72277,1325
N8EMR @ W8CQK (ip addr) 44.70.0.1 [Ohio AMPR address coordinator]
HAM BBS 614-895-2553
Voice: 614-895-2552 (eves/weekends)
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 05:15:24 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: Repeater Trivia Question.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2b3vh2$9a6@crcnis1.unl.edu> mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary McDuffie Sr) writes:
>turini@ariel.gdls.com (Bill Turini) writes:
>
>>Who put the first amateur repeater on the air? When? Where? and what band?
>
>>No prize to the winner, only everlasting gratitude :-)
>
>>73's
>
>>Bill
>
>It may not have been the first, but you will have to go some to beat
>K6MYK's AM repeater in LA. I used it in the early 60's.
>
>Gary
Ah yes, that was Art Gentry's repeater. I can still hear Millie's (W6MEP)
sweet voice on the tape I.D.: ``This is the Los Angeles Repeater - K6MYK,
Mount Lee, Hollywood'', once every 10 minutes or so. Art would get so mad at
the kids abusing the repeater that about once per day he would come over
the UHF link and threaten to turn the machine off. At that time I believe
that was the ONLY repeater in L.A.
Jeff NH6IL/QRP (ex: WA6QIJ)
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Date: 2 Nov 93 17:50:07 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/28
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
R:931101/0025Z @:WA7BHH.WA.USA.NA [Tacoma] #:12848 Z:98465 FBB5.15
R:931101/0000Z @:W7GCI.WA.USA.NA [Tacoma] #:35118 Z:98499 FBB5.15
R:931030/1514Z @:N8GTC.#CIN.IN.USA.NOAM Brookville #:47346 Z:47012
R:931030/0718z 29215@W9OJ.IN.USA.NA
R:931030/0652z 22073@N5CEC.IN.USA.NA
R:931030/0540Z @:KK9G.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Indianapolis,In.] #:21727
R:931030/0537Z @:N5AAA.#CEIN.IN.USA.NA [Noblesville] #:35453
R:931029/1256Z @:KD9LP.#NCIN.IN.USA.NA [Amboy] #:26400 Z:46911 FBB5.15
R:931029/0636Z @:NU9H.#NWIN.IN.USA.NA [MIDWEST SATGATE] #:15967
R:931028/1900z @:WA8URE.#SWMI.MI.USA.NA Grand Rapids #:36038 Z:49508
SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.025
SAREX Keps & Update: 10/28
Thursday 10/28/93 @ 08:00 UTC
The last school group contact was completed yesterday. The Portsmouth HS
in Portsmouth, New Hampshire had a telebridge contact using stations in
California (Ralph Warner, N6MNN) and Texas (Bob Douglas, W5GEL). The
students asked 5 questions during this bridge contact.
Hams across the U.S. and around the world continue to work the Shuttle
Columbia on both voice and packet. Moreover, the completion of school
group contacts has cleared several school backup passes for possible
general QSO opportunities. While the SAREX Working Group cannot fully
guarantee availability, there is a high probability that the STS-58 crew
will be ready to take general call. on these
passes. Two of these "scheduled" passes remain. These include orbit
178 at MET 11 days 1 hour 42 minutes (10/29 at 16:35 UTC) and orbit 192
at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC). Please note
that the astronauts operated voice during yesterday's "scheduled" pass
which occurred on 10/27 at 14:59 UTC (Orbit 145). Also note that hams on
the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia crew on several other orbits
yesterday.
Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, is the official SAREX
set for today. Please note that there is only a six second difference
between element set GSFC-025 (released two days ago) and element set GSFC-
031.
STS-58
1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318
2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383
Satellite: STS-58
Catalog number: 22869
Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTCset: GSFC-031
Inclination: 39.0252 deg
RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements
Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg
Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg
Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day SAxis: 6651.1630 Km
Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km
Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km
NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031.
The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
Submitted by F, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1993 15:38:36 GMT
From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
Subject: TS-820S+17m+DC FOR SALE
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Kenwood TS-820S (160 thru 10 +17m) For Sale!
Digital display has been cured of it's dropout problems!
Has tube finals and driver, tubes less than 3 months old!
Has 17m transcieve capability (70 Watts CW)!
Includes crystal for 12m mod, and the QST article with 12,17 and 10m mods!
Has 12VDC Converter!
Recently aligned, both RF and audio sound great!
Has owners' and service manual.
Asking $400 or best offer.
Terms: UPS COD cash only, you pay shipping.
Phone 303-482-2316 (msg) or e-mail.
Galen, KF0YJ.
I reserve the right to refuse any or all offers.
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 21:01:27 MST
From: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!bohica!rec-radio-info@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Welcome to rec.radio.info!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Archive-name: radio/rec-radio-info/welcome
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End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1304
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