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Info-Hams Digest            Sun, 31 Oct 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1294

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                   GAY INTERNATIONAL HAM RADIO CLUB
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 14:48:40 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rcanders@uunet.uu.net
Subject: GAY INTERNATIONAL HAM RADIO CLUB
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <dbledsoeCFC8z4.2C4@netcom.com> dbledsoe@netcom.com (Donnelly R. Bledsoe) writes:
>From: "James L. Kelly" <jimkelly@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
>Subject: LARC vs ARRL
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>Don (WB6LYI) has received a number of very supportive E-Mail messages from
>hams in response to his posting of a general LARC informational message to
>several ham newsgroups on the Internet.
>
>The support we're receiving proves that there are many fair-minded hams
>who do not support discrimination against gays. Some of them are even
>willing to go to bat for us with their ARRL officials!
>
>We have done two things to get us to this point. First, we've challenged
>the discrimination directed at us from within the hobby. Second, we've
>done so in a public manner. It's important to realize that people can't
>help us if they don't know about us, who we are, and what problems we're
>encountering. Therefore, we must continue to be forthright and public in
>our determination to be treated in a fair and just manner. We can't go
>wrong as long as we tell the truth and seek justice. That's the reason why
>the ARRL has been silent about LARC for eight years now. They can't easily
>defend an unfair and unjust policy.
>
>I think a recap of our situation with the ARRL might be useful at this
>time since some individuals have asked what we are seeking.
>
>Basically, we are seeking an agreement on the part of the ARRL to end the
>discriminatory practices directed at LARC, adoption and publication of a
>corporate non-discriminatory policy which includes sexual
>minorities, recognition on their part that their past discriminatory practices
>have hurt our organization, and a willingness on their part to work with
>our club to repair the damage done to our organization and help us grow 
>consistent with the ARRL mission to promote amateur radio.
>
>It is important to note that our discrimination complaint remains pending
>because the ARRL has not agreed to cease discriminatory practices against
>LARC, in fact, they deny that they have discriminated against LARC. The
>ARRL has said that they believe our complaint is moot since they have
>agreed to run an ad which LARC submitted in 1991. However, LARC has no
>guarantee that this decision would not be reversed and our ad once again
>removed from the pages of QST. The Connecticut Commission on Human Rights
>and Opportunities investigator has indicated, contrary to the statement
>of ARRL officials, that the case is not moot.

In other words you are suing the ARRL out of spite because they will not 
admit their non-existent guilt !

Support immorality or we will sue you, this seems to be the gay's message.







>
>LARC stands ready, as we have since 1985, to work with the ARRL for the
>betterment of amateur radio. However, there is no place in amateur radio
>for discrimination of any kind. We are prepared to negotiate a settlement
>to our discrimination complaint. However, the ARRL has been silent on this
>issue for eight years and has thus far not indicated a willingness to

Maybe they haven't broken the law.  Maybre the membership knows that the 
gays promote a dangerous lifestyle.

>negotiate, renounce past discriminatory policies, or work with LARC to

Have they discriminated against gays ?  Do you have any evidence of 
discrimination against gays other than their rejection of the gay add ?  

>promote amateur radio. Until such time as the leadership of the League
>recognizes their obligation to renounce their past discriminatory policies
>and practices once and for all, and return to spirit of their motto "Of, by
>and for the radio amateur" including all amateurs, gay and straight, LARC
>will continue to seek justice and fair treatment in the State of
>Connecticut and in the court of public opinion.  
>



It is jerks like that that are forcing the ARRL to waste money on non 
amateur radio causes.  I like many ARRL members believe that gay sexual 
practices are wrong and would oppose this settlement, even going as 
far as quitting the ARRL in protest.


>73,
>
>Jim, KK3K
>
>Jim Kelly, Amateur Radio Licensee KK3K (jimkelly@astro.ocis.temple.edu)
>M.A. Candidate - Political Science - Temple University       \
>President - Lambda Amateur Radio Club for Sexual Minorities   \
                                                  Perversion



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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:10:08 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!news.eunet.no!nuug!news.eunet.fi!fuug!krk!krksun.krk.fi!tofi@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mac users!! Read this!!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hi there  

I wonder if there are any QSO LOG-programs to the Macintosh.
THANKS in advance.
 
Kristoffer H{ggstr|m
tofi@krk.fi
 
PS. Please reply to my personal address.

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