Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 04:31:02 PST From: Ham-Equip Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-equip@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Ham-Equip-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Equip@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Ham-Equip Digest V94 #35 To: Ham-Equip Ham-Equip Digest Thu, 17 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 35 Today's Topics: Alinco battery packs Alinco DJ580 for sale Drake R-4 Crystal Substitute Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment GLB Channelizer GLB400B HeathKit for sale Help me find quartz for TV station in Novosibirsk HT Recs out there? IC-W2A problems ticking on 440mhz ICOM Radios, AQS and IF Filters Kenwood TR2500 rotator ??? (2 msgs) Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Ham-Equip@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Ham-Equip-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Equip Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-equip". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:54:02 GMT From: newshub.nosc.mil!crash!jhawk@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Alinco battery packs To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Anybody have experience in breaking into and replacing cells in alinco battery packs? In particular the EBP-10N for the DJ-160T. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 1994 15:40:23 -0500 From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!news.bbn.com!petra!cass.ma02.bull.com!cass.ma02.bull.com!not-for-mail@@ Subject: Alinco DJ580 for sale To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu For Sale Alinco DJ580 dual band HT covers 2M and 440. Brand new, only used 10 times. Comes with all accessories including quick charger. All for $450 or Best Offer. Call John (WA1TLX) until 10pm EST @ 508 663 5744 (posted for John by Bob Tripi (N1KFV) who can accept mail on Johns behalf) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 1994 21:49:15 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.cic.net!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!peri.acs.ohio-state.edu!rdixon@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Drake R-4 Crystal Substitute To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In addition to the FS-4 previously mentioned here, another small company used to make an analog VFO kit that accomplished nearly the same thing. It plugs into a crystal socket, and it contains a separate 500khz crystal calibrator. You use the calibrator to set the VFO to the 500 khz segment you wish to receive, and then it works just like a crystal. It runs from 12VDC. I think the guy who made them is K9ZMU. They are of course not as stable as a crystal or synthesizer, but it is not too bad, and certainly good enough for listening to short wave broadcast stations. Note that there tuning ranges that do not work well even with the intended Drake crystals because of IF mixing problems, and that problem is much worse if you intend to use a substutute device to control an associated T4X transmitter. Bob W8ERD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:49:32 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!umn.edu!rabbit.cccs.umn.edu!RWH@ames.arpa Subject: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In article <dgfCL6L1t.Mx1@netcom.com> dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman) writes: >From: dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman) >Subject: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 21:01:02 GMT >I purchased four "D" cells and their recharger. My application requires >6VDC at about 5 amps continuous. When new, the cells decreased from 6V >(series connected) output to about 4V output rather linearly during about >30 minutes of loading. I recharged the cells as directed, and repeated the >usage. After only 15 charge/discharge cycles, the battery reached 4V output >after only 5 minutes of usage (again, a linear time/voltage discharge). >I looked for one "weak" cell in the string, but each cell was similar to >the others at any given point in time. I tried this test only on one set of >4 cells purchased at the same time from a local retailer. First, wouldn't gel-cells be a better bet for this type of application? It seems like a 30 amp-hr draw is a bit much to expect from D cell batteries. I purchased a package of AA's and the 4 unit charger to see how well Renewals lived up to their hype. I also picked up a package of 4 Ray-O-Vac alkalines and three identical single AA flashlights. I loaded up the flashlights with a Renewal, an alkaline and a freshly charged Millenium nicad and ran each until the cells were exhasted. The regular alkaline lasted about 9 hrs, the Renewal quit after 6 hrs and the Millenium gave up the ghost at 2.5 hrs. A second test yielded almost identical results except the Renewal quit at 5:50. I've since cycled the Renewal cell 10 times and the life is down to about 4 hrs. It seems to lose 10 to 15 minutes of life per charge. I'm not sure how a more realistic load would effect the outcome, but I would think that the deep discharge is probably the worst case for the Renewals. I called the 800 number in the coupon booklet and they are sending me a packet of technical materials on the Renewals. After playing with them for a week or so now, they seem like they are ideal for applications where I would normally use alkalines, but I'm not about to replace the nicads in my Walkman or PRO-43 which get cycled fairly frequently. I have a phone and a couple of remote controls that eat AAA's for lunch that are going to get Renewals, and I have a friend that swears by them for use in his Sony Watchman where the voltage difference seems to make a fairly big difference. --rick N0LOX +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Hoffbeck, Sr Analyst e-mail: rwh@cccs.umn.edu | | Prostate, Lung, Colorectal & Ovarian cis: 72406,521 | | Cancer Screening Trial voice: (612) 627-4151 | | University of Minnesota fax: (612) 627-4158 | | 212 Ontario St SE, Suite 202 | | Minneapolis, MN 55414 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 1994 17:47:15 GMT From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!peri.acs.ohio-state.edu!rdixon@network.ucsd.edu Subject: GLB Channelizer GLB400B To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In article <2D5FC0FC@glenayre_smtp>, clee@vancouver.glenayre.COM (Lee, C.F.) writes: |> |> I pick up a GLB400B channelizer and am wondering if anyone has any |> information regarding this unit. I believe it is a synthesizer meant to |> operate with crystal type 2m transceivers. I would appreciate any |> information. |> |> Thank you. |> CF Lee, ve7lcf You are correct, that is exactly what it is. I have one in operation now myself. Its output can be fed into a crystal socket of the 2M radio, and then it becomes synthesized. But keep in mind that the GLBs were customized to work at whatever frequency the crystals were, and that differs for various radios. Hence it may not work in your radio without modification. It requires 12VDC to power it. Bob W8ERD ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 1994 21:48:04 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec3!mne1@network.ucsd.edu Subject: HeathKit for sale To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu I have a heathkit Sb-100 with matching speaker/power supply for sale. I have no use for it since I live in a dorm, and no room for it. It is in the box, with manual and everything. I'll even throw in microphone, speach compressor, and Bilal Isotron for 10M -t>b;Nw leave me email or callsB: Oe3F ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 94 13:50:16 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!KremlSun!kiae!relcom!newsserv@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help me find quartz for TV station in Novosibirsk To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Hi, world! Anybody know where can I find a few quartz resonators for governmental TV station in Novosibirsk, becouse component plants in Russia are stay or closed and component distributors demand minimal order in $1000. Please, help me find quartz Freq Q-ty 98,217 MHz 1 48,972 ... 1 49,986 1 50,388 1 50,791 1 52,000 1 52,201 1 52,590 1 53,368 1 44,333333 1 5,13550 8 <-- urgent & urgent 5,040 2 <-- 98,217 KHz 2 Please, answer me directly by e-mail, because I don't follow this newsgroups. Thanks, ---- Alexandr N.MAINICHEV /Telex: (64)412062 OCTET SU, / BOX 50516 Dipl.Physic. / POST BOX 82, / main@msib.nsk.su Director of / NOVOSIBIRSK-90, / Fax:(383 2) 35 68 11 "Agency MicroSib" / 630090, RUSSIA / Ph :(383 2) 35 44 28 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 94 22:09:30 GMT From: concert!news.duke.edu!jdc2@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: HT Recs out there? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Jesse, I have a Kenwood TH78A, and I love it. I've also been out of the market for a year, but it was the best dual band radio I could find. I am also a college student, and I love having an HT. Try operating one with a speaker mic while riding a bike (with the HT in your backpack). That gets interesting. The 78A might be a tad pricy (mine was upwards of 500 I think), but I also got some toys to go with it. I must admit a brand allegance to kenwood, but that's just me. I know you could not go wrong with a 78, so look into it if you get the chance. On a side note, it looks so cool that you probably won't get any dorks saying "hey, is that a CB?" I'll keep the post short - mail me if you want more info N5SKQ (J. Carter) ___________________________________________________ J. D. Carter - jdc2@acpub.duke.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 10:19:12 -0500 From: sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.@@pacbell.com Subject: IC-W2A problems ticking on 440mhz To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu ICOM W2A On 440mhz transmit the red transmit LED pulses about once per second. If you watch the power output it pulses at the same time. If you transmit into a dummy load for 60seconds or so at full power so the back of the unit warms up then the problem goes away till it cools down. Eventually the transmit section fails. Sound familure? I know of two radio for sure and I heard tell of 13 more. If your radio does this let me know I am trying to find a good fix for this common failure mode. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 1994 13:44:57 GMT From: olivea!spool.mu.edu!torn!csd.unb.ca!upei.ca!UPEI.CA!seeler@ames.arpa Subject: ICOM Radios, AQS and IF Filters To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu I would like to ask the readers two questions about the Icom radios - in particular - the IC275 and IC475. First - Each has a FM IF filter labeled : CFW 455E. I would like to know what the band width of this filter is. I can copy 9.6 KB packet ( Ko-23, UO-22) reasonably well - but was wondering if I shoud consider replacing it with a filter with better pass band characteristics. Secondly: CAn anyone expand on the term " Amateur Quinmatic System " That Icom uses to describe the AQS port on the rear of each radio. I am aware of the pin information - but was wondering to what use I can put these ports to other than 9.6 Kb hookups. Thanks for any information you may be able to provide me in respect to these questions. 73 de Dave, VY2DCs Internet: Seeler@UPEI.CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 22:31:41 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!jsteinhu@uunet.uu.net Subject: Kenwood TR2500 To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Does anybody have any information about the Kenwood TR2500, I need to find out about it and don't even know what band it is. :) ANY information would help a lot. Thanks de N1MAM -- jsteinhu@nyx.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 94 15:28:12 GMT From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu Subject: rotator ??? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In article <QhLyo0y00YUoApKUE4@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris Beasley <cb1p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >Hey folks, looks like it's time to consult the net.wisdom on this one. >I have an old (circa 1960) Channelmaster antenna rotator and a page >of documetation that includes the rotator and the controller. From >the schematic, it appears that the rotator and controller are just a >pair of 90degree windings at about 8 ohms each that are connected >together to form a synchro pair? Much deleted. >Thanx in advance and 73! >Chris >N3PDG I think what you have are called SELSYNS. I have a c1951 Air Force Radar manual that describes them in some detail. Manual states they are also called SYNCHRO, AUTOSYN, and SYNCHROTIE. Try looking in some OLD radar/radio books. My book is titled 'Radar Circuit Analysis, AF Manual 52-8'. Galen, KF0YJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:28:32 -0500 From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cb1p+@ames.arpa Subject: rotator ??? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Hey folks, looks like it's time to consult the net.wisdom on this one. I have an old (circa 1960) Channelmaster antenna rotator and a page of documetation that includes the rotator and the controller. From the schematic, it appears that the rotator and controller are just a pair of 90degree windings at about 8 ohms each that are connected together to form a synchro pair? The only difference between the rotator and the controller is that there is another xformer in the controller hooked up to line AC on one side and with two secondaries hooked up to the "control windings?" in the controller. I guess I could try to imitate some lame ascii graphics or something :-/ Rotator Controller Rotator --------------------------------------------- | | | < < | > > | < < | | | | --/V\/V/\/V\-C-/V\/V\/V\-- ----------/V\/V/\/V\-C-/V\/V\/V\-- | | > > < < > > | -------------| Whew, that's a bitch! I am not gonna get the whole schem. this way. how about if I just elaborate verbally.... The rotator on the right appears to have four windings connected into two that are not connected in the center, thus forming two 90 degree windings. The two ends are commoned to produce the line I call "common" going back to the controller. The other two lines going back to the controller are the two winding power lines. There is something in the controller that is the same that I am calling the control transformer for lack of a better term. There is also a transformer hooked up to 120VAC with two secondaries, a switch (probably for direction sense) and a capacitor. If this is all still too confusing I can try to enter more of the schems. What I am wonderign is, how to control this rotator. Eventually I would like to hook up to my computer but for now I would be happy to have a box with compass points and a dial on it. I have one of those actually but it seems to be the wrong kind. It has four wires to connect to for one thing and has a solenoid that I think is supposed to move a compass needle when pulses come back from the rotator. It doesn't work with my rotator any way I have tried to hook it up. Can anybody help me with this? Tell me what kind of rotator I have and what kind of controller I need? Where to get one? Any additional info will be appreciated! Thanx in advance and 73! Chris N3PDG ------------------------------ End of Ham-Equip Digest V94 #35 ****************************** ******************************