Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 04:30:26 PST From: Ham-Equip Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-equip@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Ham-Equip-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Equip@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Ham-Equip Digest V93 #113 To: Ham-Equip Ham-Equip Digest Fri, 26 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 113 Today's Topics: Alkaline vs Nicad operating time Ameritron 811 APT interface for PC CMOS Super Keyer II (2 msgs) icoms on construction job Indestructable HTs? (3 msgs) Type Accepted ham HT' Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Ham-Equip@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Ham-Equip-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Equip Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-equip". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:29:48 GMT From: telesoft!garym@uunet.uu.net Subject: Alkaline vs Nicad operating time To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In a recent thread there was some discussion about the usefulness of AA packs with Alkaline batterys for use in HT's. Especially for backup/disaster work, since Alkalines have a longer shelf life than a charged nicad pack and operate longer before it has to be replaced/recharged. I can't find the thread now but I found some interesting info in my FT-470 user manual (a Yaesu 2M/440 HT) to add tho this. The book gives a chart of battery charge life under a specified set of conditions. The interesting thing is the relative life of the Nicad packs, and AA packs with Alkaline or Manganese batteries. From the chart you can estimate the milliamp-hour rating of Alkaline and Manganese batteries. Battery Model Charge Life ------------------ ----------- AA Pack: 6 AA Alkalines 17 hrs (about 2000 mAh) 6 AA Manganese 5.8 hrs (about 700 mAh) 7.2v Ni-Cd Pack (200 mAh) 1.6 hrs 7.2v Ni-Cd Pack (600 mAh) 5 hrs 7.2v Ni-Cd Pack (1000 mAh) 11 hrs Using their ratings for the various packs (excluding the 1000 mAh pack) we can estimate that the Manganese batteries have a rating of around 700 mAh and that the Alkaline batteries have a rating of around 2000 mAh. The life of their 1000 mAh pack seems too long compared to the other packs. I would expect these ratings to vary with various brands of Alkaline batteries. Has anyone done any tests to measure mAh rating of various AA batteries? --GaryM -- Gary Morris KK6YB Internet: garym@alsys.com San Diego, CA USA Phone: +1 619-457-2700 x128 (work) ------------------------------ Date: 25 Nov 1993 14:46:35 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!ugle.unit.no!stud.unit.no!kenneth@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ameritron 811 To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Anyone out there having comments on the Ameritron 811 PA,compared to other types ? thanks in advance. Kenneth. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 20:53:22 GMT From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!sun4nl!bsoatr!bsdihi!dihi@network.ucsd.edu Subject: APT interface for PC To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu Try using the beautifull JVFAX software (shareware). It is capable of receiving all kinds of FAX and SSTV modes. I build my interface around an 741 chip for less than $1 !!!. I am able to receive all kind of nice WX pictures, and even send and receive color SSTV!! The JVFAX software is written by DK7JV, and is downloadable from a lot of BBS'es. Have fun! Dick Hissink PA3DSP Email:dihi@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 19:59:45 GMT From: hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!hopper!porter@uunet.uu.net Subject: CMOS Super Keyer II To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu >A friend of mine let me borrow his "CMOS Super Keyer II", >and I like it very much. Where can I buy one of these? > >The feature list sounds identical to the Logikey unit (that >HRO sells for about $120). Are these the same design? Any >comments about either of these units? After I RTFM, I found that the unit I was using was the kit version, and it *is* identical to Logikey's model K-1. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Porter work: (804) 978-5764 alan.porter@cho.ge.com KD4DNU/AA home: (804) 973-ALAN big@catt.ncsu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 18:39:14 GMT From: hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!hopper!porter@uunet.uu.net Subject: CMOS Super Keyer II To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu > After I RTFM, I found that the unit I was using was the kit version, > and it *is* identical to Logikey's model K-1. I called Jeffrey Russell (KC0Q), one of the makers of the keyer kit. He told me that the CMOS Super Keyer II is a kit. The Logikey K-1 is an assembled unit. The Super Keyer can be ordered from Idiom Press, Box 583, Deerfield IL 60015 for $48 (postage pre-paid). Why do I feel like I am having a conversation with myself? :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Porter work: (804) 978-5764 alan.porter@cho.ge.com KD4DNU/AA home: (804) 973-ALAN big@catt.ncsu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 93 20:25:56 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!rchalk@uunet.uu.net Subject: icoms on construction job To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu brian.oakley@pubcon.fort-worth.tx.us (BRIAN OAKLEY) writes: >did you check out which band the icoms were transmitting in? icom makes >radios that are type accepted for business use, marine use, avation, >etc. not just ham. fyi 73. wb5kxw I've seen RS handhelds used by Chaperones at a High-school Band Competition. I asked about licenses, and they said "What licenses?" I have also heard of Race Car drivers using them. RS makes no real effort to control this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 20:12:40 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!dsharp@uunet.uu.net Subject: Indestructable HTs? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu kharker@bnr.ca (Kenneth E. Harker) writes: > I am wondering about something... what's the most "indestructable" >HT available? Is there one that could withstand not just being dropped, >but being dropped and rolling down a steep, rocky trail? Or being in >the vest pocket of a ski jacket when you crash and burn and land on top >of it? Something as rugged as most camping flashlights for example? Are >there any HTs that are really waterproof? Like if you dropped them in a >stream or in a bank of wet snow, they would still work? How about an I have an Icom IC-24AT Dualband HT, I don't know just how indestructable it might be if I dropped it, but one my cats did knock it into a cooler of water while it was powered up and monitoring a local repeater. It did die from the immersion, but I opened it up, dried it out under a fan for a couple days, reset the CPU, it it worked like new! Says a lot for the short-protection circuitry Icom puts in there. ZZ -- ______________________________________________________________________ Dave Sharp, NU8H | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Dayton, Ohio | don't get sucked into jet engines" Email: dsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu | -Unknown ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 1993 15:40:55 -0600 From: concert!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!kharker@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Indestructable HTs? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu I am wondering about something... what's the most "indestructable" HT available? Is there one that could withstand not just being dropped, but being dropped and rolling down a steep, rocky trail? Or being in the vest pocket of a ski jacket when you crash and burn and land on top of it? Something as rugged as most camping flashlights for example? Are there any HTs that are really waterproof? Like if you dropped them in a stream or in a bank of wet snow, they would still work? How about an HT that would operate in temperatures from -10c to 40c? If this "dream" HT doesn't exist, what's the closest to it? Are there things that can be done to "ruggedize" existing units? I'm not a terribly active outdoors type, but I would like to be able to take an HT along with me on camping or skiing trips and not have to worry about anything except how much battery life I have... -- ====================================================================== Kenneth E. Harker BNR "Any opinions expressed kharker@bnr.ca Richardson, Texas, USA are solely mine and do N1PVB (214) 684-5115 not represent BNR" ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:14:02 GMT From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net Subject: Indestructable HTs? To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu In article <2cu017$f5o@crchh941.bnr.ca> kharker@bnr.ca (Kenneth E. Harker) writes: > > I am wondering about something... what's the most "indestructable" >HT available? Is there one that could withstand not just being dropped, >but being dropped and rolling down a steep, rocky trail? Or being in >the vest pocket of a ski jacket when you crash and burn and land on top >of it? Something as rugged as most camping flashlights for example? Are >there any HTs that are really waterproof? Like if you dropped them in a >stream or in a bank of wet snow, they would still work? How about an >HT that would operate in temperatures from -10c to 40c? > If this "dream" HT doesn't exist, what's the closest to it? Are >there things that can be done to "ruggedize" existing units? > I'm not a terribly active outdoors type, but I would like to be able >to take an HT along with me on camping or skiing trips and not have to >worry about anything except how much battery life I have... The Icom 2GAT is the toughest radio targetted at the ham market that I know of. Some of the Motorola stuff is likely tougher, but are not directly settable like a ham HT (i.e. you need a computer to program the commercial gear). -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com 508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347 ------------------------------ Date: 25 Nov 93 01:42:37 GMT From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!pubcon.fort-worth.tx@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Type Accepted ham HT' To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu i hesitate to agree with your answer without further qualifications. the fcc type accepts a radio by testing the radio and what it can and cannot do. if the radio can cover frequencies including a ham band, and they give it type acceptance, it is type accepted for its intent. just because one uses ham frequencies in the radio does not make it non-type accepted. it is still type accepted for the commercial frequencies it uses because it meets the criteria the fcc set down for type acceptance. please enlighten me of you opinion. b. wb5kxw ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 22:41:31 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!dptspd!TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU!TAYLOR.TAMU.EDU!gtaylor@network.ucsd.edu To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu References <1993Nov21.110946.330@sfpp.com>, <1993Nov22.163942.23514@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <2cr82m$etu@oak.oakland.edu>S Subject : Re: Best 2m handheld? Didn't QST do a comparison of 2m handhelds awhile back? Greg Greg Taylor, KD4HZ // g-taylor4@tamu.edu // 409-845-4445 // Fax-847-8744 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 16:42:48 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!sknapp@network.ucsd.edu To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu References <CFoJ0J.973@alsys.com>, <CGpqKs.Gwr@alsys.com>, <CGqnLn.Gpv@news.iastate.edu>s.ias Subject : Re: Problems with Kenwood TM-742A In article <CGqnLn.Gpv@news.iastate.edu> jdwhite@iastate.edu (Jason White) writes: >My advice: ditch the 742A, and if you must buy Kenwood get a 741. If not, >check out the Yaesu 5100 and 5200. I know of several people who have them and >I don't hear them bitchin'. :) You forgot to mention how much better the mounting hardware with the Yaesu was! :) More flexable, allowed mounting in more strange places. Both the head unit, and trunk unit are easily removable without tools. The unit did not require a duplexer, and was smaller. The instructions for mounting were much better. If I had the $$$ it would be my mobile rig of choice! ________________________________________________________________________ Steven M. Knapp Computer Engineering Senior sknapp@iastate.edu Vice President Cyclone Amateur Radio Club Iowa State University; Ames, IA; USA Durham Center Operations Staff ------------------------------ End of Ham-Equip Digest V93 #113 ****************************** ******************************