Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 04:30:15 PST From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Digital@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #18 To: Ham-Digital Ham-Digital Digest Sun, 30 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 18 Today's Topics: ( BID: MSK_0194 ) ! Moscow Packet Net 9600 baud TNCs Hamcom III Help! Mac/KAM/tcpip How to get started? JVFAX-like program for Macintosh ? Kantronics Weather Node wanted net for unix Notebook interference to HT? packet and ARES TNC3 & TNC4 ? W9GR dsp port for TI DSK Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Digital Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-digital". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Jan 1994 07:00:08 GMT From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!KremlSun!kiae!relcom!push.stack.serpukhov.su!stack.serpukhov.su!victor@network.ucsd.edu Subject: ( BID: MSK_0194 ) ! Moscow Packet Net To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Date: 25 Jan 94 19:55:00 UTC From: ua3cr%rk3kp@gw.ra3apw.ampr.org To: wsem@sun Subject: CP UA3CR: Moscow pkt Net Path: RK3KP From: UA3CR@RK3KP.MSK.RUS.EU To : WSEM@SUN Original from UA3CR to MAP@EU BID: MSK_0194 (Only this BID to use please!) ------------------------------------------------- MOSCOW PACKET NET ================= | North-East Link | BBS+Remote users -------------- 14.092 MHz ------------ BBS+Remote users | | MSK6:UA3CR-6 TheNet Node | RS232 | MSK7:UA3CR-7 TheNet Node | | Local users --------- 144.625 MHz ------- Local users | | MSK12:RW3DR-12 TheNet Node | | Local users -------------|-------------- Local users | UA3APH bbs | 10 calls Educational local 2m scan for local users----vhf-------|------ Packet System in the House and UZ3AXO bbs fbb 5.12 | of Science and Technology | for Yuth | Local users --------- 144.625 MHz ------- Local users | RK3KP bbs Planned high speed interlink---- hf/vhf/uhf --------- 3.595 MHz fbb v.5.15 bbs + remote users | 430.675 MHz | UA3CR-5 | MSK1: MSK2: South-West--14.094 MHz----MSK5-------|---UA3CR-1--RS232--UA3CR-2----10.150 MHz KA-Node | TheNet Node TheNet Node bbs+users | Local users and UA3APH bbs | | | UZ3AXO | vhf scan | hf/vhf---------144.650----RS3A------|------UA3CR--2m/70cm---SatGate KO23/UO22 fbb 5.15 | fbb 5.15 | Sysop remote control | | | | | | 14.097 MHz RW3AA-8 MSK8:UA3CR-8 KA-Node TheNet Node | | Experimental 3.597 MHz RS232 link (7.??? MHz) | | MSK11:UA3CR-11 users TheNet Node | Local users-------------144.675 MHz-------------Local users | | | RA3APW-7 TCP/IP Gateway/Mailbox/Netrom Planned high speed ------- 192.91.186.152/44.178.1.2 --- Internet (64 KB link 19200 bps | satellite AXIP link) ------------------------------------ RA3APW-9 RA3APW-10 RA3APW-11 RA3APW-12 | | | | | | | | W6VIO-9 SP9KBY-8 HA5KFU-1 W5GB-9 Note: All HF links are 300 bps All VHF/UHF links are 1200 bps List of fwd bbs on HF RK3KP: DK0MWX SM5BKI 4X1KT SV1IW GB7LDI SP9ZDN TA2EM LZ2XA UA6LU UA6CL RW6AT UY0LL UR7IWZ UT4UX UZ4FXT UA3TJQ UZ9CWW UZ9OWD UA0SC. UZ3AXO: I6BNW TA7BBS RW6AT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This diagramm is coordinated with UA3CR RA3APW RW3AA UA3APH RA3AT Jan 1994 Moscow --- 73! Victor, RX3DIN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 07:16:34 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wb6w@decwrl.dec.com Subject: 9600 baud TNCs To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu kb4lfh@vnet.ibm.com wrote: : I have gotten a few negative and a few positive comments back on : the DRSI DPK-9600 baud TNC. What TNC or TNC/modem combination : seems to give best performance? The TNC should be able to run : in either native AX.25 mode or in KISS mode for use with TCP/IP : over packet, the later preferred. : Any and all feedback on 9600bd TNCs will be GREATLY appreciated. : Thanks & 73, : Mike KB4LFH : Cary, NC Mike - I am using the MFJ 1270B TNC with the MFJ implementation of the 9600 baud modem. I seems to work ok for the most part. The only complainrt I have is that the beast seems to change TXD/SLOT/PERSIST parameters on it's own while running in KISS mode. I haven't been able to get to MFJ with questions (their tech phone is always busy). I have a friend who is running the same version of JNOS as me (my EXE file is a copy of his) but with a Kantronics data engine and HIS parameters don't change. The KDE is a nice box biut is much more expen$ive than the MFJ box. If you don't mind some of your TNC parameters being jangled in KISS mode, the MFJ is at least worth a look... Glenn wb6w@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 13:09:48 GMT From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!laidbak!tellab5!jwa@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Hamcom III To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu I heard that Hamcom III is available. Does anyone have it? Can you uudencode it and E-mail it? I can't ftp from this sight. --- Jack Albert WA9FVP Fellow Radio Hacker Tele (708) 378-6201 Tellabs Operations, Inc. FAX (708) 378-6721 1000 Remington Blvd. jwa@tellabs.com Bolingbrook, IL 60440 "I'm a half breed" "I can only breed through on side of my nose!" Eddie Kantor ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 94 02:13:34 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Help! Mac/KAM/tcpip To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu I have been trying for some time, without success, to get a packet radio station running utilizing a Macintosh, a KAM, and the tcpip protocol NET/Mac by PA2AGA. Anyone out there who has been down this road who would be willing to help? Thanks, Don engstrom@umassmed.ummed.edu -- Login name: engstrom In real life: Donald R. Engstrom Office: Biomedical , x6-3758 Directory: /resh/engstrom Shell: /bin/sh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 20:12:30 GMT From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!cauldron!ra.csc.ti.com!sti955.dseg.ti.com!sling@seismo.css.gov Subject: How to get started? To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu I'm very interested in digital radio. I've taken several graduate EE coarses in digital communications, so I have a decent grasp of the theory. However, I have no real-world experience with radio. It looks like digital amateur radio might be just the ticket. Are there any seasoned amateurs out there who can help me get started? (I already read the FAQ) Who do I contact to get a license? Is there a test? Do I have to know morse code? Where can I learn more about the equipment used? How much will it cost? Is it realistic to design and build some of it myself? I think I would learn more that way. Are there any digital radio operators in the Dallas area that would be interested in giving me a demo? [][][] Steve Ling Texas Instruments, Inc. sling@dseg.ti.com P.O. Box 655012, m/s 31 214-995-1378 Dallas, Texas 75265 ------------------------------ Date: 27 JAN 94 17:04:55 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!zenith.pfc.mit.edu!garnier@network.ucsd.edu Subject: JVFAX-like program for Macintosh ? To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu There is! It just came out. Its called RadFax 0.9. Written by Juri Munkki and available on sumex.stanford.edu. It uses the built in sound digitizer of the newer macs to do the modem part and only does WEFAX and only receives. But, for the shareware fee you get the source code. I have yet to get my powerbook together with my SW reciever, so I haven't gotten a picture yet. Maybe someone else can get it and do a review? (It's also sitting in the incoming directory at UMICH, so it should be availablethere too soon.) Darren. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 12:24:57 EST From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ulowell!das.wang.com!wang!tosspot!lee@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Kantronics Weather Node wanted To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Hi. Anyone out there have the above deivce for sale with or without the temperature/windspeed sensors? Thanks, Lee. lee@tosspot.sv.com ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 1994 23:09:55 GMT From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!hermes.acs.ryerson.ca!ee.ryerson.ca!jeff@seismo.css.gov Subject: net for unix To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Michel CERDINI (cerdini@zen.gatelink.fr.net) wrote: : I'm trying to install net package (ka9q internet protocol package) under : Linux, with my pk232 us model, and I have always problems : missing files, : manuals to short...etc... : I never arrived to send a ping frame to another station ! : Is there someone who use net (or something better ?) under Linux with a : pk232 who can send me his config files (like startup.net) ? : Thanks in advance... : (sorry but english is not my native langage) : -- WAMPES, an updated version of ka9q works fine under Linux. If you have problems with configuration scripts, send E-Mail to the maintainer of that code, Olaf Erb. His address is in the distribution of WAMPES. You can get it from UCSD.edu /pub/hamradio/tcpip/wampes I think. Also, Alan Cox, the maintaner of the networking code for Linux has just released AX25 built into the kernel. If you like, I can send you a ready built kernel, and the docs on how to get it going. Send me E-Mail if you are interested in that. I think that's your best bet. It does IP over AX25, and normal AX25 directly from the kernel to a KISS TNC. I've had no problems at all. : Michel CERDINI BP5574 69247 Lyon Cedex 05 | E-Mail cerdini@zen.gatelink.fr.net : BBS/RTC Videotex ZENITH (8 acces) 24h/24 | AX25 F1ITS@FF2LY.FRHA.FRA.EU : Minitel: 7836.1996 - V32b/V42b: 7836.1001 |AmprNet F1ITS.AMPR.ORG [44.151.69.10] 73! de Jeff / VE3DJF Internet Jeff@EE.Ryerson.Ca AMPRnet VE3DJF@bbs.VE3RPI.ampr.org @[44.135.88.3] AX25BBS VE3DJF@VE3RPI.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM Linux Linux Linux Rah Rah Rah Linux Linux Linux..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:10:40 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Notebook interference to HT? To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu There are 2 problems with your station, the first being the low power of the HT. Unless you can run 20 watts or more, you are a classic "hidden transmitter", and will not be heard by many of the other packet stations. So, packet collisions will occur, because of you, and much of the network traffic will slow down because of retries. The second thing (just an assumption by me), is that the antenna in use is the rubber ducky on that HT. If this is true, it will pickup computer noise by being too close. You need an outside antenna to eliminate this noise. An outside, omnidirectional antenna, placed as high as yoiu can, will also help problem number 1 get better. With this, more stations will hear you. You will now hear them transmitting, and you wont be transmitting on top of them, screwing up the frequecy. Good luck. -pat -- *-----------------------------------------------------------* * Pat Masterson D12-25 | KE2LJ@KC2FD * * Grumman Data Systems | 516-346-6316. * * Bethpage, NY 11746 | bat@gdstech.grumman.com * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 21:41:29 GMT From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!CC.UMontreal.CA!fn@network.ucsd.edu Subject: packet and ARES To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu In article <1994Jan27.165319.10971@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: > [begining deleted] >That depends. If you have a PC, the Gracillis Packet Twin plug in card >is the best digital interface. It'll handle any two of 300, 1200, 2400, >9600, 19.2 kb, or 56 kb modems. One of those (up through 9600 baud) can >be an internal daughter card, the other external. The Ottawa PI card >is a lower cost alternative. Could someone give the manufacturer (or distributer) name, address, phone and fax number, and the approximate price of these 2 adapters. [rest deleted] >Gary >-- >Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary >534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary >Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | TNX, 73 de Francois / VE2NFC -- Francois Normant (VE2NFC) | Internet: fn@mathappl.polymtl.ca Ecole Polytechnique - Mathematiques | Compu$erve: 75210,525 C.P. 6079 - succursale centre ville | Tel. (514) 340-5968 Montreal - Quebec - Canada - H3C 3A7 | Fax. (514) 340-4463 ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 1994 19:42:08 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!zaphod.crihan.fr!news.univ-rennes1.fr!nospiment.ireste.fr!dbillon@network.ucsd.edu Subject: TNC3 & TNC4 ? To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu I read a paper about the TNC3 and TNC4 (Falcon). Did someone try one of these TNCs ? Any advice to buy one of these ? 73, Damien, F1PLI, dbillon@nospiment.ireste.fr ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 94 17:51:32 GMT From: flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU!news.csos.orst.edu!gaia.ucs.orst.edu!frl.orst.edu!forrerj@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: W9GR dsp port for TI DSK To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Greetings, For those that have the $99 TI DSK, I placed my port of the W9GR audio digital signal processor software on ucsd.edu in hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming. Look for DSPDSK.EXE and DSPDSK.TXT. If you are interested in learning some finer points of audio DSP, obtain this code and work through it. Enjoy. Johan Forrer KC7WW e-mail: forrerj@FRL.orst.edu (code posted with consent of W9GR) ------------------------------ End of Ham-Digital Digest V94 #18 ****************************** ******************************